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1950 EMW 340

1950 EMW 340 in Wings to Scandinavia, Documentary, 1962

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin:

1950 EMW 340

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sixcyl ◊ 2023-12-20 09:17
sixcyl ◊ 2023-12-20 09:20	Was this DDR car exported to some western countries?
Lateef ◊ 2023-12-20 09:31	It was very successful in Norway back then, mainly due to the fact that Eastern Block cars were cheaply imported thanks to a trade deal with the Soviet Union in the 1950s where they received fish in exchange for cars. It was difficult to purchase a new car in Norway back then, as there were car rationing laws that prohibited people from buying cars unless viewed by a board as absolutely necessary. The rationing was only repealed in 1951 for commercial vehicles and 1960 for passenger cars. And if you were to obtain a permission to buy a car, they were usually rather expensive for the time and Norway was still a relatively poor country until the 1970s. -- Last edit: 2023-12-20 09:48:56
sixcyl ◊ 2023-12-20 09:38	Interesting, I learned something
Gongora ◊ 2023-12-20 16:55	I was surprised to learn that Norway was a relatively poor country until the 1970s. It was not in the famous PIGS (Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain) and looking at photos of Oslo in the 1950s you can see a modern city full of cars. Although it is true that some of them predate the Second World War.
sixcyl ◊ 2023-12-20 18:28	Digression: PIGS is a contemptuous and insulting term invented by financial actors mostly from US and UK, those who among other things like to speculate on currencies and deficits, etc... I remember a phrase they had in those years there (2009/2010): You've liked PIGS? ... you'll love to FUK them!* ... announcing similarities with France and UK... These guys are pests for the people
electra225 ◊ 2023-12-21 18:29	Lateef wrote It was very successful in Norway back then, mainly due to the fact that Eastern Block cars were cheaply imported thanks to a trade deal with the Soviet Union in the 1950s where they received fish in exchange for cars. It was difficult to purchase a new car in Norway back then, as there were car rationing laws that prohibited people from buying cars unless viewed by a board as absolutely necessary. The rationing was only repealed in 1951 for commercial vehicles and 1960 for passenger cars. And if you were to obtain a permission to buy a car, they were usually rather expensive for the time and Norway was still a relatively poor country until the 1970s. Yes, in the 60s the average car was quite old in Norway but I think the situation wa not so different in Danemark and I am almost sure Finnland was much poorer as till 1967 it had to pay war indemnity to USSR. When I first visited Scandinavia in the very early 80s Finnland still looked much poorer.
Lateef ◊ 2023-12-22 17:13	Norway had been under the thumb of Denmark during 1537-1814 and Sweden 1814-1905. In this period many of the extravagant buildings in Denmark and Sweden were bankrolled by Norwegian resources - fish, timber, iron, silver, copper to name a few. Also, much needed manpower to support the wars of Denmark came from Norway. Norway was among the poorest countries in Europe in the 1800s and was largely agrarian. As Norway had been sucked dry by Danish (and to a smaller extent) Swedish Imperialism, it took a long time to gain the same level of wealth and power as Denmark and Sweden had, a trend which continued into the first half of the 21st century. While Norway experienced an economic boom from the 1870s to the 1900s and again after WWII, the growth was substantially slower than that of neighboring countries at the time. It was only the discovery of oil in the late 1960s that tipped the scales. Finland, which had been under the thumb of Sweden and Russia for many years, also struggled similarly to keep up.
chicomarx ◊ 2023-12-22 18:20	Lateef wrote It was only the discovery of oil in the late 1960s that tipped the scales. Why didn't you find it sooner?
Lateef ◊ 2023-12-22 18:22	Because it was at the bottom of the ocean..?
chicomarx ◊ 2023-12-22 18:52	We had oil from the Congo, and also rubber and diamonds.
Gongora ◊ 2023-12-23 16:13	It's an exciting topic... and all for talking about an EMW 340 I once heard that in the late 1950s the European country with the most cars per capita was Iceland. And I don't think I'm wrong if I say that the country with the least cars per capita in Western Europe was Spain... Portugal had a lot more. Not that it's a poverty competition but looking at pictures of Spain and Norway and Finland in the 1950s you could say that the latter two were rich countries in comparison.
chicomarx ◊ 2023-12-24 03:19	Ok, let's do a poverty competition. At that time Greece, Portugal and Ireland were below Spain in GDP per capita, that would correlate with the number of cars. The wealthiest was Switzerland. It would be surprising if Iceland had more cars per capita on the road than Switzerland... And Norway has a higher standard of living than either the US or Sweden today, which is largely thanks to their oil and gas, as I was trolling Lateef about. Germany has no such natural resources, that's also what cost them the war. They were completely dependent on oil from Romania.

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