Chicago, Short Movie, 1945

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1938 ACF-Brill Model 36-S

1939 Buick unknown

1941 Cadillac

1941 Cadillac Series 61

1942 Cadillac Series 62

1939 Checker Model A

1942 Chevrolet

1942 Chevrolet Fleetline Aerosedan

1939 Chevrolet Master De Luxe

1942 Chevrolet Master De Luxe

1940 Chevrolet Special De Luxe

1941 Chevrolet Special De Luxe

1939 De Soto unknown

1941 Dodge unknown

1941 Ford De Luxe

1937 Ford V8 De Luxe

1940 Ford V8 De Luxe

International Harvester Metro

1941 Oldsmobile 70 Dynamic Cruiser

1936 Oldsmobile Six

1941 Plymouth

1937 Pontiac

1939 Pontiac Quality Six

1937 Pontiac Unknown

Ross 15 HT

Ross Series 90

unknown

White 800-Series

Yellow Coach PG 3701

1939 Yellow Coach TD 4501

1941 Yellow Coach TD 4505

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skywatcher68 ◊ 2014-03-25 02:18	A short movie about the city by the Chicago Board of Education, originally released between mid-'45 and mid-'46. Can be seen at vimeo.com/88065833.
skywatcher68 ◊ 2014-03-25 02:18	It's a short subject but it's also a documentary. Perhaps the type should be the latter?
skywatcher68 ◊ 2014-03-25 03:49	Miscellaneous traffic on Lake Shore Drive
skywatcher68 ◊ 2014-03-25 03:51	Miscellaneous traffic outside the Chicago Public Library
skywatcher68 ◊ 2014-03-25 03:52	Miscellaneous traffic on Michigan Blvd.
skywatcher68 ◊ 2014-03-25 03:54	Miscellaneous parked cars outside the University of Chicago Medical Center -- Last edit: 2014-03-25 03:59:28
skywatcher68 ◊ 2014-03-25 03:55	Miscellaneous shopping district traffic
skywatcher68 ◊ 2014-03-25 03:56	Miscellaneous traffic on Randolph Street
skywatcher68 ◊ 2014-03-25 03:59	Miscellaneous parked cars in residential districts
skywatcher68 ◊ 2014-03-25 04:02	Miscellaneous parked cars outside a church
skywatcher68 ◊ 2014-03-25 04:06	Chicago Municipal Airport (name changed to Midway in '49)
skywatcher68 ◊ 2014-03-25 04:09	The mail order giants Sears & Montgomery Ward
mike962 ◊ 2014-03-25 21:51	is this "doc" about cars ?? should we keep it ?
rjluna2 ◊ 2014-03-25 21:56	Nice, Skywatcher68 That was before my time.
Gamer ◊ 2014-03-25 22:03	mike962 wrote is this "doc" about cars ?? should we keep it ? Yes, because it has some very old and nice cars.
Lateef ◊ 2014-03-25 22:32	mike962 wrote is this "doc" about cars ?? should we keep it ? I don't even... Old documentaries like these are kept on the site, despite not being about cars
karoomay ◊ 2014-03-25 22:33	Some of the cars with a 2 star role look like background cars just passing by.
-- ◊ 2014-03-25 22:35	Yes. Actually all of them seem to be 1-star. Is there an explanation? (I am not against having it listed)
karoomay ◊ 2014-03-25 22:42	I don't really have anything against this being listed either, given the time period, but Lateef does raise a good point since the admins lately have restricted rules on adding documentaries and limiting background cars.
-- ◊ 2014-03-25 22:51	I think Lateef means the opposite. I think he agrees with it being kept.
mike962 ◊ 2014-03-26 00:24	but haven't we already have ENOUGH old docs like this which aren't about cars ? then it just starts to get repeats and repeats of same car pool and image quality if of course often very poor due to age -- Last edit: 2014-03-26 00:30:37
skywatcher68 ◊ 2014-03-26 00:38	mike962 wrote is this "doc" about cars ?? Sort of. It has some great driving scenes on Lake Shore Drive but is largely about the city of Chicago.
skywatcher68 ◊ 2014-03-26 00:50	karoomay wrote Some of the cars with a 2 star role look like background cars just passing by. Other than the lumber equipment, all vehicles are either from the Lake Shore Drive scenes or other scenes in which the audience's perspective is as if they're on the road themselves. I figured that vehicles essentially interacting with the audience warranted being bumped up from background due to the usual star rules being difficult to apply to a documentary. Pretty much everything which would be deemed "too background" is on this page. -- Last edit: 2014-03-26 01:19:34
Lateef ◊ 2014-03-26 15:26	kegare wrote I think Lateef means the opposite. I think he agrees with it being kept. That is correct.
G-MANN ◊ 2014-03-26 15:33	Personally I'd probably vote no to this.
Lateef ◊ 2014-03-26 15:42	mike962 wrote but haven't we already have ENOUGH old docs like this which aren't about cars ? That's like saying "don't we have ENOUGH old movies that aren't about cars ?" It was decided more than four years ago that documentaries older than 30 years or having footage of that vintage, should be treated the same way as movies in terms of having them listed. And what do you mean "enough"? Is that limit something you have defined? mike962 wrote then it just starts to get repeats and repeats of same car pool and image quality if of course often very poor due to age The day recurring footage becomes a large-scale problem, it can be taken into consideration. This footage seems unique to other site content. And you should know that certain users like seeing cars of these car pools, despite the fact that many models are recurring. And it should not be taken as obvious that the picture quality is very poor just because of the age. It all depends on the source. Personally, I can't be bothered with the picture quality unless I know there exists a version superior to mine in terms of quality.
antp ◊ 2014-03-26 17:31	Lateef wrote That's like saying "don't we have ENOUGH old movies that aren't about cars ?" No, the site is about cars in movies. Documentaries are just an extra and so are not especially justified on the site, even if indeed the old ones are more easily accepted and the rule about traffic cars is relaxed. I guess this one is acceptable, but there will be duplicate cars to merge/regroup once identified. -- Last edit: 2014-03-26 17:33:11
antp ◊ 2014-03-26 17:39	Skywatcher68 wrote I figured that vehicles essentially interacting with the audience warranted being bumped up from background due to the usual star rules being difficult to apply to a documentary. No, if the car is just seen passing it should be listed as 1-star. There are many documentary where cars have role (when involved in the doc), so if the cars here have no role they should stay as 1-star even if more visible than others. These should be changed then.
karoomay ◊ 2014-03-26 18:59	[dead external link to a smiley] Way to go me on completely misunderstanding Lateef's comment.
skywatcher68 ◊ 2014-03-26 19:52	antp wrote No, if the car is just seen passing it should be listed as 1-star. Okay then. -- Last edit: 2014-03-26 19:52:35
skywatcher68 ◊ 2014-03-26 20:13	Skywatcher68 wrote Miscellaneous traffic on Michigan Blvd. Are those a pair of Yellow Coach Z-BHs? I submitted a somewhat closer view but I guess it was still too background. -- Last edit: 2014-03-26 20:15:20
Lateef ◊ 2014-03-27 09:37	antp wrote No, the site is about cars in movies. Documentaries are just an extra and so are not especially justified on the site So, let me get this straight: TV-series, mini-series and animated series are also extras? As in, everything not being a movie, by definition are considered extras? In fact, movie is per etymological definition short for "moving images", which would apply to documentaries as well. I would rather think that this pivot is related to fiction versus reality?
antp ◊ 2014-03-27 16:52	Movie in this context is the fictional thing with a story, actors, etc. Here we made the equivalent of what movie sites list as actors, but with cars. By extension we also included series, bikes and background cars. And then also documentaries, but not any one, and not all cars in these either. -- Last edit: 2014-03-27 16:53:24
sixcyl ◊ 2014-04-06 15:35	Aircraft at: http://www.impdb.org/index.php?title=Chicago_(1945)

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