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G-MANN ◊ 2008-10-16 02:08	Ferrari 456 (blue car in the middle): From the scene where Bond arrives at Carver's party, a Maserati Quattroporte IV (1st thumbnail, bottom left corner) and a yellow Lamborghini Diablo (2nd & 3rd thumbnail) Background cars from the multistorey carpark chase scene: Fintail Mercedes visible on the CCTV screen on Bond's phone when he starts the BMW at the beginning of the chase: 1)Lada Riva 2) Mercedes W123 3) Peugeot 504 & Daewoo Espero 4) BMW 3-Series [E30] 5) Chevrolet 6) VW Karmann Ghia 7-8) Porsche 924 9) Citroen 2CV 10-11) Citroen Dyane 12) Mercedes SL [R109] & Jaguar XJS -- Last edit: 2012-09-12 00:24:29
Ingo ◊ 2008-10-16 22:37	In our license-plate-collector's forum we are wondering, why in in such a expensive movie the plates of the cars are such poor, worst made fakes. Anyways, in Bond-movies the locations and many more details usually aren't original either. Why the Bond-movie-makers are provoking such an amount of goofs and real mistakes?
G-MANN ◊ 2010-06-02 10:23	It probably isn't anything to do with money, it's just the art departments of these movies aren't conscientious enough to make them totally authentic (they probably don't have a lot of time and think most viewers won't notice or care). Also, with the BMW 750iL in this film the space for the plate in the bumper is the wrong shape for a German plate (or a British one), it's more like the shape of a US plate, so they probably had to compromise. In Britain you can have square plates for grey imports and also motorbikes, does Germany do this? -- Last edit: 2010-06-03 18:02:35
G-MANN ◊ 2010-06-03 18:03	See the first comment for background cars that need identifying. -- Last edit: 2010-06-03 18:03:30
antp ◊ 2010-06-04 12:11	about "background cars that need identifying" (I do not see the point of doing that if they are not listed), the last but one is the Citroën 2CV/Dyane (maybe the same one 2 pics before) that you deleted some time ago. Fourth one is a BMW E30, wasn't it listed previously? The white one (5th) is the Mitsubishi Colt that you deleted some time ago too -- Last edit: 2010-06-04 12:12:18
G-MANN ◊ 2010-06-04 16:55	antp wrote about "background cars that need identifying" (I do not see the point of doing that if they are not listed) Just so I can put something else other than "blue car". The Citroen Dyane, BMW E30 and the Mitsibishi were already in the comments anyway (your comment actually) -- Last edit: 2010-06-04 16:58:23
Sandie ◊ 2011-11-15 19:13	Can't tell the blue car but there is a Daewoo Espero visible in the same shot. The "green sports car" is a Porsche 924.
dsl ◊ 2011-11-15 19:22	Blue car (3rd thumb in the car park set) is Peugeot 504.
Robi ◊ 2012-03-18 16:57	Two interesting cars in Bangkok (standing in for Saigon): Blue sedan on the right, red sedan (Australian Ford?) behind it
Maisak ◊ 2012-08-18 09:07	Blue sedan? I think is Toyota Corolla. -- Last edit: 2012-09-05 00:51:39 (G-MANN)
G-MANN ◊ 2012-09-05 01:08	Robi, I deleted the Mercedes W124 you added because in that shot it must appear for a fraction of a second (I know this chase scene pretty well) and it's hardly a rare car. It's probably the same car that's more visible here /vehicle_450437-BMW-7-E32-1987.html (next to the BMW E32) -- Last edit: 2012-09-05 01:09:30
antp ◊ 2012-09-05 17:04	And doesn't the Mercedes seem more worth listing than the BMW ? And more than /vehicle_223092-BMW-5-E12-1972.html which already shares the same pic as another -- Last edit: 2012-09-05 17:07:50
G-MANN ◊ 2012-09-05 18:03	What do you want - delete the BMW or list the Merc? At least the BMW was bit a rarity, being 25 years old at the time. Or shall we just let Robi list every car in that car park? By the way, this may seem rather odd but I've put the Mitsubishi Colt back up: /vehicle_529560-Mitsubishi-Colt-C12.html -- Last edit: 2012-09-05 18:17:19
antp ◊ 2012-09-05 18:29	I do not know, I do not really care, I was just surprised
G-MANN ◊ 2012-09-05 18:32	I'm sure someone else added the BMW E12 and E32 (must have been Robi), I just replaced the original pictures with DVD captures. What I don't really like is when people add extra background cars using crappy pics. What Robi should do is make HD captures (he said he had the James Bond set on Blu-Ray) -- Last edit: 2012-09-05 18:38:45
Ingo ◊ 2012-09-05 19:08	Where was the parking garage scene filmed? Or were there more filming locations? There is a strange mixture of US-spec cars and cars, which were available only in Europe. The plates doesn't say anything. All are terrible fakes.
G-MANN ◊ 2012-09-05 19:16	It was filmed in the multistorey car park at Brent Cross Shopping Centre, London. They must have brought in a load of LHD cars and made up those fake German plates for them. -- Last edit: 2012-09-05 19:27:26
G-MANN ◊ 2012-09-05 21:57	Spotted a rare Maserati Quattroporte IV in the scene where Bond arrives at Carver's party, see thumbnails above.
S 415 GT ◊ 2012-09-05 22:05	While the Mk. V Quattroporte was very popular here, the previous Generations were very rare.
dsl ◊ 2012-09-05 22:33	G-MANN wrote Background cars from the multistorey carpark chase scene: ..... 6) unknown yellow coupe Interesting (also in the 7th photo as well). Is it a late trim Karmann Ghia?? Unusual for UK and looks Californian-style alloys - Empi?? -- Last edit: 2012-09-12 00:24:02 (G-MANN)
Ingo ◊ 2012-09-06 13:04	Late or latest? The bumper is not really identifyable. But it has the big indicators and the colour seems to be shantunggelb, so 1971 would be correct. The alloys maybe Empi, but the pic is too bad to take it as a fact.
dsl ◊ 2012-09-06 13:19	Fairly sure UK KG sales stopped late 60s, so this would be another rogue import in this car park collection.
Ingo ◊ 2012-09-06 19:45	Err, are there ANY UK-spec cars visible in these scenes at all?
Robi ◊ 2012-10-15 18:38	The highest level of the parking garage: By zooming in, it is possible to see some interesting cars: 1) Renault 11, same colour as in "A View to a Kill": /vehicle_2624-Renault-11-X37-1983.html 2) Volkswagen in two-tone paint 3) Ford Explorer, EU-spec 4) Porsche 944
Robi ◊ 2012-10-15 22:46	Movie completed
G-MANN ◊ 2012-10-15 22:51	The "deleted scenes" cars that have been submitted are just unused footage from the car chase scene (not quite the same as a deleted scene), not worth listing.
Robi ◊ 2012-10-15 23:34	Okay, I'll delete them. Could we keep the Jaguar, as it is a nice car?
G-MANN ◊ 2012-10-15 23:56	No, it's only seen for about a half second in that extra footage. -- Last edit: 2012-10-15 23:59:08
Robi ◊ 2012-10-15 23:58	Mhm okay...
G-MANN ◊ 2012-10-18 17:55	Pity that Ferrari 456GT and Maserati Quattroporte IV didn't get validated, they're both rare exotics and there's only a few of each on the site...
antp ◊ 2012-10-18 17:57	Indeed...
G-MANN ◊ 2012-10-18 17:58	Would you validate them if Robi re-added them?
antp ◊ 2012-10-18 18:09	I haven't seem them, but even if very background rare cars might be worth listing
G-MANN ◊ 2012-10-18 18:10	I posted DVD captures of them at the top, but of course they'd be more visible in a Blu-Ray capture.
antp ◊ 2012-10-18 18:11	That's very background... well with DVD pics indeed not worth listing -- Last edit: 2012-10-18 18:12:02
G-MANN ◊ 2012-10-18 18:14	I know it's very background but when you consider all the much more ordinary stuff that's background and still listed, like many of the cars in the car park chase (like that Mitsubishi Charisma that appears for less than a second in the film) -- Last edit: 2012-10-18 18:16:29
dsl ◊ 2012-10-18 18:23	I'd guess the Ferrari and Maserati were deliberate insertions by the producers rather accidental coincidences, so seem worth pages to me (despite being very background).
G-MANN ◊ 2012-10-18 18:25	Yes, for those scenes they obviously wanted expensive cars, for the multistorey car park they probably just filled it with whatever they could find. And that Astra van got validated, the only real reason for adding that is the goof factor (car with UK plate in a scene that's supposed to be set in a German airport) -- Last edit: 2012-10-18 18:29:23
rtsbusman1997 ◊ 2012-10-18 23:42	I have to give these filmmakers credit. They found quite a the haul of USA spec cars in England and around.
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2012-10-18 23:49	They weren't looking for US spec cars, because there aren't any scenes set there. They needed left hand drive cars for the Hamburg car park scene (filmed in London) and some of the cars they found happened to be US spec models.
rtsbusman1997 ◊ 2012-10-19 00:13	I know that. I meant that I'd assume that they would only find left hand european cars, not USA spec cars. -- Last edit: 2012-10-19 00:27:02
Duesentrieb ◊ 2013-10-26 09:47	[quote]In Britain you can have square plates for grey imports and also motorbikes, does Germany do this?[\quote] Yes, it does. At least at the rear, e.g. the Volkswagen Beetle (the old one ) and the BMW Isetta were designed to hold almost square plates (340x200 mm instead of 520x110 mm. These plates are the obvoius choice for imported cars from the US. The problem with the plate of the BMW is that the lettering has been done in one line, while these plates were designed to have two lines ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_Germany ). The inscription is correct in principle (in that the numbers have the right size compared to the letters) and you see what the designers wanted to show (yes, it IS a vehicle from Berlin), but what catches your eye first is the wrong letter arrangement. This could have been prevented by doing approx. 5 minutes of internet research. I don't know why the art department didn't invest that time - in this case, taking a US plate it and embossing or painting it correctly would definitely have done the job. -- Last edit: 2013-10-26 09:48:13
Sandie ◊ 2015-02-15 03:20	G-MANN wrote The "deleted scenes" cars that have been submitted are just unused footage from the car chase scene (not quite the same as a deleted scene), not worth listing. I assume that it is the same things here (added again by Robi): God knows what the second one is, might be a Dakar 4x4 but it is very indistinct. -- Last edit: 2015-02-15 03:20:14
AOLJU ◊ 2015-02-16 19:01	Where can that footage be seen?
Vulpes ◊ 2015-02-22 21:04	Mistake, not Lada Riva, but Lada Niva - http://pics.imcdb.org/0is411/tomorrowladariva.3062.jpg
Robi ◊ 2016-03-23 10:07	Other vehicles: unknown 1991 Seat Ibiza 1987 Ford Sierra 1995 Peugeot 405 (M-prefix) 1992 Volkswagen Corrado AEC Routemaster unknown 1995 Jaguar XJR Jaguar [XJ40] 1990 Land-Rover Range Rover 1989 Volkswagen Golf (G48ORB) - off the road since 2001/2002 1983 Fiat Uno 1992 Renault Extra unknown 1989 Leyland DAF 400 1991 Ford Transit 1994 Maserati Quattroporte 1991 Volkswagen Transporter 1990 Lamborghini Diablo 1991 BMW 3 1996 Mercedes-Benz E-Klasse 1994 Volkswagen Polo Volkswagen unknown [Typ 1] 1994 Mercedes-Benz C-Klasse 1992 Volkswagen Golf 1994 Ford Fiesta 1989 Mercedes-Benz 190 1960 Mercedes-Benz 220 S 1984 Jeep Cherokee (three-door) 1980 BMW 320 1993 Ford Escort 1992 Daewoo Espero 1993 Opel Corsa 1994 Fiat Punto 1981 Mercedes-Benz S-Klasse 1973 Citroën Dyane 1975 Peugeot 504 Lada Niva 1976 Mercedes-Benz [W123] 1982 Opel Ascona 1991 Chrysler Voyager 1984 Honda Jazz 1995 Honda Civic Liftback 1990 Mazda 323 1985 Mercedes-Benz [W124] 1987 Seat Ibiza 1996 Seat Toledo 1989 Ford Fiesta 1973 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia 1976 Porsche 924 1987 Ford Fiesta unknown 1985 Mazda 323 1986 Fiat Panda 1988 Volkswagen Golf Citroën 2CV 1995 Fiat Brava 1991 Renault Clio 1992 Renault 19 1987 Porsche 944 S 1990 Mercedes-Benz T 1971 Mercedes-Benz SL 1988 BMW 5 1988 Volkswagen Golf Cabriolet 1983 Renault 11 same colour as in "A View to a Kill" 1995 Ford Explorer 1992 Mercedes-Benz O 405 GN Mercedes-Benz SL [R107] US-Version 1982 Jaguar XJ-S 1991 Audi 100 1987 Audi 80 1987 Opel Omega Chevrolet unknown 1993 Ferrari 456 GT 1994 BMW 8 1992 Toyota Hilux Thailand-built unknown 1975 Toyota Corolla Thailand-built unknown unknown 1969 Peugeot 504 -- Last edit: 2020-06-17 15:54:22
SM99 ◊ 2021-10-13 02:28	What's the red car? another Colt?
dsl ◊ 2021-10-13 03:50	^ Seat Ibiza.
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2023-10-17 11:05	The parking garage interiors were filmed at the Brent Cross shopping centre in London. The Vietnam scenes were filmed in Thailand and the UK.

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