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2002 Ford Focus 1.6 MkI 
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◊ 2006-11-13 21:12 |
Registered RJ02 YTG: Date of Liability 18 02 2003 Date of First Registration 06 05 2002 Year of Manufacture 2002 Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1596CC Fuel Type Petrol Export Marker Not Applicable Vehicle Status Unlicensed Vehicle Colour SILVER |
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◊ 2009-01-14 15:15 |
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◊ 2011-05-05 20:10 |
You are not alone Mudflap.  |
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◊ 2011-05-05 20:13 |
Indeed. I always liked these. I don't like the models after this as much. They are bland and try to be Golfs. |
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◊ 2011-05-05 20:21 |
I think we've been here before ... but for what it's worth my reaction is that Mk1 was visually an incoherent and lazy mess of half-baked ideas inside and out, but great to drive. Mk2 blander to look at, but someone made the well overdue effort to integrate a styling theme across the whole car and still good to drive. Am keeping my powder dry on Mk3 until I can drive one, but it looks much flabbier. |
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◊ 2011-05-05 20:24 |
One ![[:puke]](https://imcdb.opencommunity.be/images/smileys/puke.gif "[:puke]") for three scary lapses of taste, published by three IMCDB-members within 4 minutes. -- Last edit: 2011-05-05 20:25:18 |
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◊ 2011-05-05 20:31 |
@ingo: Well, there were/are a lot of people who really like this car (every generation). The Focus was/is a really successful car. |
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◊ 2011-05-05 20:33 |
Indeed, It was the best selling car in the UK every full model year it was made. |
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◊ 2011-05-05 20:38 |
"Successful" means not "stylish" or "well-designed"  |
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◊ 2011-05-05 20:57 |
@m.pfaffeneder (and others, too): if you are interested to be lead closer to some real tasteful and classic, I invite you to stroll around with me and some other freaks (as the most hardcore Audi 50-enthusiast) on the 8th and 9th October in Mannheim on the http://www.veterama.de/de/5-galerie.html?gallery=451 (2010-pics, on one you can find me .gif ";)") ) Maybe Animatronixx will be there, too and maybe 130rapid has also the chance to come  so we can offer some tutoring about the real interesting stuff .gif ":)") As a classic car-newbie you won't be alone. A younger fellow from my plate-collector-clique has to come, too. His knowledge about that topic is very low, too.  But you have to get up early. Start is punctual at 8:00 on Saturday. Which means for me: getting up at 4:00 and making 330 km to come there. |
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◊ 2011-05-05 21:06 |
The irony being that twenty years from now classic car events will probably have a small group of Ford Focuses. Every year I go to a classic car event and there I see lots of Morris Marinas, Ford Cortinas etc. Cars which were once considered to be not very desirable or too mainstream to be classics. |
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Gomselmash11 ◊ 2011-05-05 21:11 |
@ Sandie: i found a hyper-rare Morris Marina in Buenos Aires... http://fosilesmecanicos.blogspot.com/2011/04/morris-marina.html  |
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◊ 2011-05-05 21:16 |
Nice find! I think it's actually a later (and more rare) Ital. They were also made in Portugal. Maybe sourced from there? |
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Gomselmash11 ◊ 2011-05-05 21:19 |
Its probably... im not really sure  I think its almost 1982, because the imported cars (except very few units) are closed because the Malvinas issue. |
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◊ 2011-05-05 21:20 |
@Sandie: though in Germany Ford was always a popular brand, their cars disappeared fast, faster than Opels or VWs. On classic car-events here you always see less Ford, compared with the competitors. And, still after 34 years, the Ford-scene has to handle the results of the big fire from October 1977. Back then the main European spare-parts-warehouse of Ford in Köln-Merkenich was burnt totally down. And annother reason is, that for many decades Ford-cars were always more unreliable and in wors quality than the other German brands. A rule-of-thumb in the German classic-car-scene is "The last reliable and sturdy Ford was the 1948' Taunus. Forget all what followed" Yes, the Focus MkI was indeed the first Ford in better quality, this is a fact - which doesn't make it well-designed anyways. |
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◊ 2011-05-05 21:29 |
Hopefully I will make old Fords more reliable (even though for me they are quite reliable), because I will repair them, as I will do an apprenticeship as a car mechanic in a Ford garage. PS: My parents had 4 Opel (2x Kadett, 2x Rekord) and they weren´t good at all. After them we had two Golf II. There were great. And now we have got a 1998 VW Golf IV (since 2005), which is really good, too. And there were a lot Fords in my family. And no one of them had huge problems. -- Last edit: 2011-05-05 21:30:35 |
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◊ 2011-05-05 21:58 |
I got a nice reminder on how awful cars early 90s Fords are today. My brother is studying to become a car mechanic, and he showed me a 1995+ Escort they are repairing for a client. There was actually more rust than metal left even though they had already repaired much of the rust Also all the bumpers were cracked. He told me they had been working on it for several weeks, and counted that the work they'd done so far would cost many times more than what the car is worth. The most ironic part is that the client was only planning to use the car for one more year before scrapping it  -- Last edit: 2011-05-05 21:59:48 |
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Gomselmash11 ◊ 2011-05-05 22:04 |
Incredible, but here except the awful cars made by Ford brasil... are good. I remember the Taunus, Sierra, Escort, Focus... and are good cars with good quality (no big troubles). |
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◊ 2011-05-05 22:05 |
So they have fooled the customer? ![[:heink]](https://imcdb.opencommunity.be/images/smileys/heink.gif "[:heink]") This acting reminds me, what a VW-garage has made with the really rotten K 70 of an old man. They made it ready for the next TÜV-inspection as new cylinderhead, new shockbreakers, etc., plus very much welding - finally it has cost 13.000 DM (ca.6700 €). And two years later, it was an irretrievably wreck! Just then the old man had the idea to buy annother 1973 K 70 (as he didn't want to drive anything else). I've organized one for him. It's to say, that he let make the VW-garage, just because the senior owner was his old war comrade. And he had money enough... |
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◊ 2011-05-05 22:07 |
Heh. Don't you think that Focus alot more mainstream than Marina was? |
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◊ 2011-05-05 22:14 |
Over here is few Scorpios, few Sierras and even fewer Escorts. Comparing to nearly indestructible and far more common Audis and Mercs, they already turned into rust buckets. |
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◊ 2011-05-05 22:34 |
As far as I know the owner knows what's going on and they're just doing what they're told. I really don't understand what the point is trying to restore an old wreck like the Escort, especially when you can get examples in better condition for less money than it costs to repair it. I've honestly never seen any car in such condition still on the road, it's totally unbelievable that it's passed the inspection last year when you could see through both the floor and the doors. |
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◊ 2011-05-06 10:12 |
This makes the impression, that something was wheeled and dealed with that. Notmally it shouldn't be possible. Isn't Finland the country on the world with the less corruption at all?  Though Germany is also high positioned on this list, it's a fact, that sometimes there "purchased" TÜV-inspections are happening... |
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◊ 2011-05-06 11:38 |
Yes, Finland should be pretty high on the list of non-corrupted countries. However I did read an article about cars passing inspection too easily and didn't think it was a big problem as I thought most of the things they let pass were small faults which wouldn't affect safety, but now I think the guy who let a car in that condition pass the inspection shouldn't be allowed to keep his job. |
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◊ 2011-05-06 15:16 |
A tour through the Veterama, guided by Ingo? That sounds like big fun! Though I guess it wouldn't take long until security kicked us out due to Ingo's mocking comments towards all those snobbish clubs and dealers...  |
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Gomselmash11 ◊ 2011-05-06 15:33 |
Agree cl82,  |
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◊ 2011-05-06 22:31 |
@cl82: sorry, you are wrong The Veterama is a spare-parts-market, not a car-show like the Techno Classica. Compared with the TC, you won't find snobbish people there. The fraction of the indigenous bread-and-butter-car-freaks (sorry, dsl, not many porridge-cars. Not really many British stuff is to find there)is the absolute standard, the just-lookaround-for-fun-people are not existing there. Haven't you ever been there? Mannheim is in your neighbourhood (seen from my home-place). |
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◊ 2011-05-06 22:52 |
But sure, there are reasons for mocking comments, sure. For example I can show you the douchey dealer from Berlin, who tries to sell since minimum 12 years his absurdely overpriced K 70-spare-parts-catalogue (125 €, before 2002 250 D-Mark). The price is fixed, even after I've shown him two identical catalogues with the -true- words "This I got over there for 40 €. For both." So it's a little ritual to have a look to it every year again. But no kidding: if you only have one day there and want to see everything, there's not much time for joking around, gabbing with fellows (after years with this hobby, you always meet acqaintances there), rummaging in magazine-stacks and looking for nice photo-objects. It's recommended to rush along the paths, always with your fully activated scan-systems (important principle: "incredible great features can be found in the clutter-boxes under the tables of non-experts!" )Often the weather is bad there (first weekend of October), so mainly for the Veterama I've still kept my Bundeswehr-boots for the last 20 years Last year it ws quite warm, though thinner clothing it was really hard. I was so absolutely exhausted, that I could't control the most path of the motorbike-area (think about the mentioned principle!) any more. I had to make the 330 km back, too... P.S. To have a companion is very useful. Four eyes are seeing more than two, as we say in German - and there's someone, who can carry bags, boxes and bunches of your purchased stuff. -- Last edit: 2011-05-06 22:56:55 |
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◊ 2011-05-06 22:52 |
You know I didn't mean my comment that serious. I know it's much more relaxed and down-to-earth than most other oldtimer-related events, but I thought you could buy "complete" cars and bikes there, too and not only parts. I guess I was wrong then, sorry. I've only read the yearly articles published in "Oldtimer-Markt" and "Motor Klassik" about it. You're right of course, it's near my old neighbourhood, and even from TÜ where I live now it shouldn't take much more than two or three hours to drive. On the other hand, I've (unfortunately) never had a classic car so far, only antique ones, and for these models you still find the parts you need on almost any junkyard. Besides, I hate Mannheim. I really hate it. Been there far to often. Bad memories due to a relationship that turned out to be the road to hell . She still lives there AFAIK; still, I'd be very surprised to meet her on the Veterama, so I'd really like to go to that event, and if I met a bunch of IMCdB-members there it would be even cooler. On the other hand, I fear that I won't have much time to spare in October. -- Last edit: 2013-02-21 23:02:48 |
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◊ 2011-05-06 23:02 |
... http://forum.imcdb.org |
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◊ 2011-05-06 23:05 |
O.k., for that personal reasons your reluctance of Mannheim is understandable For me, the most unbeautyful point there is the disgusting local dialect. Otherwise there are not only locals there, the people are coming there from all around Germany and Europe. But nearly no rich classic-car-shoppers from Overseas. They are coming to the Techno Classica, as this is the best place for their interests. You are wrong with one thought: your all-day-Polo is becoming a classic. There's a plenty of parts and literature for the [Typ86C] to find there, even the N4 is coming up... The classic car event with the nicest atmosphere, relaxed on the far countryside (but really too far aways for you) is http://www.oldtimermarkt-bockhorn.com/ I love to go there. Except in 2005 I've been there always since 1991 |
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◊ 2011-05-06 23:08 |
subtle |
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◊ 2011-05-06 23:10 |
There's even a specific thread on this on there. |
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◊ 2011-05-06 23:12 |
A charming oversight of off-topic-bloopers can cause charming thoughts at the delinquents. A possible result can be, that they can be able to find nice precious items for generous admins on these mentioned events Sorry, but the keybag of the SAAB-tuner went to chicomarx, but it's always more to discover there... |
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◊ 2011-05-06 23:18 |
@tonkatracker: the last mentioned event, the nice one in the North, is very close to the county, where a local fire brigade had a bunch of Suzuki Samurai's in use. So it's better not to slander about the hand, who can dig for truffles |
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◊ 2011-05-06 23:23 |
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