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◊ 2005-11-26 20:25 |
Most likely A Volvo 242 |
◊ 2005-11-26 20:32 |
Pour répondre à ton mail, Antoine: oui, c'est un break. |
◊ 2005-11-26 21:53 |
Merci Volvo 245 donc -- Last edit: 2005-11-26 21:54:04 |
◊ 2005-11-27 14:19 |
With this hood and front I think it´s a 265 DL about 1975 |
◊ 2005-11-27 17:47 |
I do not think, that from this shape is possible to see the difference between 245 and 265. The difference was only in engines - they were built into all shapes. |
◊ 2005-11-27 23:27 |
It´s more difficult to see the difference between them on the US market, especially in the eighties. But the older ones have more different details. These double round headlights belong almost exclusively to the 260 series with one exception, the 1979 245. After that most of them looked alike with double square headlights. So this one could be either or, of course, but since the 260 was in production a few more years with this look the chances are greater this being a 265. |
◊ 2009-04-24 13:56 |
US spec due to round quad headlights... |
◊ 2011-03-13 19:41 |
There are a few ways of differing the models. The 260 series had always chromed grill (apart from the super rare DL wich had a carburettor and thus not sold on the US market), but it's wrong to say that only the 1979 245 had double round head lights as most 240's had them 1975-80. Also the 260 series had double round head lights up to 1978 (I think) while they got two rectangular ones from 1979. When both 240 and 260 series had rectangular head lights they could be separated as the space below the lights were black on the 240's while it was silver (chromed?) on the 260's. Because of the above said it can not be said that this is 265 but a 240 (242, 244 or 245) as there are no details to tell how the rear end looks like. That is a US spec Volvo 240. |
◊ 2011-03-13 20:37 |
It´s some years now since I looked into this, but for US-market the 1975-78 model 240´s look about the same as they do in Sweden with single round headlights, like seen here: /vehicle.php?id=139166 The 260 models had these double round headlights due to US-legislation, large square or oblong headlights were not yet approved. So for 1979 modelyear both 240 and 260 used the front of the 260 with double round sealed beam units, replaced for 1980 with small double square units. From 1979 and on they look more alike, and for US-market they also keep this front a few years into the eighties apart from the facelifted euro-versions. The car above can from the picture entered not be called more than 260, or 240, but Bebert who entered it claims that it was a Wagon so that´s the reason for calling it 265. I´m not sure, but I think the 265 DL was sold in the US aswell, obviously with fuel injection due to emissions, but still I think the trim level was available. |
◊ 2011-03-13 21:06 |
I found this for 1976 models: |
◊ 2011-03-13 22:38 |
Not quite DAF, the 1975-77 240DL models had single round headlights, from 1978-80 the received the quad round lights (except the 2-door which kept using the single round lights). The 260 models used the quad round lights from 1976-77, from 1978-80 they used square quad lights. From 1981-85, all models used the quad square lights. From 1980-84, they stopped using the numbers, and just used the letters as names (DL/GLE/GLT/Turbo) -- Last edit: 2011-03-13 22:49:27 |
◊ 2011-03-13 22:51 |
It was from memory, not too far off luckily Thank´s for completing the picture. |
◊ 2011-03-15 10:45 |
As far as I know the 260 series were only available with metallic paint. I still believe this is a 240. |
◊ 2011-03-15 20:58 |
It´s difficult to find original US-market material for these, and I think specifications differ between homemarket and US-spec cars even when it comes to paint. I´ll check my brouchures to see if solid paint was available here, 264/265 DL was very rare here so I don´t really recall. Anyway, we have this one in solid green. It´s from first season of the series, 1977, so it would be original paint, I picked DL as trimlevel due to this paint 5 years ago, but maybe the trim on wheelarches rather suggests GL since the 265 DL cars below lack them? /vehicle_18709-Volvo-264-1976.html Two original 265 DL in solid paint: Maybe night cub will have some more input on this. -- Last edit: 2011-03-16 09:58:40 |
◊ 2011-03-16 12:38 |
Then if the paint can't differ them, how is it possible to tell it's either a 240 or a 260 series? Back in 1992 I bought a 1976 Volvo 244 DL, but soon got tired of the trim level and tried to find extras fitted to cars previous to 1978, which was a year that Volvo made loads of improvements to almost every bit of the car, apart from the body work. Result - almost no more sold than previous years. By chanse I found out, when visiting a car demolition plant nearby, that the 260 series when being fitted with steel rims used somewhat different ones compare with the 240 series and had a slightly bigger hub-cap. A fact that can't be seen on this picture. Are there more pictures available? When looking closely on this picture I notice that the bumper has a wide silvery part in the middle. That was available in 1978 only, I think, as it wasn't available pre 1978 and had a slightly different appearance 1979 on according to a 1979 brouchure I've got (ASP/PV 6590-79. USA). That is if the car shown hasn't been smashed at some point... Spare parts can have been taken from almost everey year thinkable. When looking at figures for cars made by Volvo 1927-85 (PR/PV 850221) the 265 M 1978-79 was made in 6040 of them and that includes all 125/141/148 hp (125 hp was carburettor and the 141/148 hp were fuel injected), compared with 245 M 1978-79 53430 of them with 90/100/123 hp engines (the 123 hp were fuel injected). That is almost 10 times more 240's than 260's. (The M is an index number for 1978-79. B is for 1974/75 etc) If still not satisfied I think it would be best if a Volvo 200 page was introduced. That is both 240's and 260's if can't be differed. What do the rest of you out there think? -- Last edit: 2011-03-16 15:31:42 |
◊ 2011-03-16 12:44 |
Here's a 1976 UK brouchure http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/pdf/brochures/Volvo1976alt2.pdf which tells us that the white colour (colour code 42) wasn't available on the 265 DL. I don't know if any conclusions can be drawn from that, especially as this (probably) is a 1978 US spec 200 series. 240? |