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To Hell and Back, Movie, 1955 IMDB

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Also known as:

  • Zur Hölle und zurück (Germany)
  • Regreso del infierno (Spain)
  • L'enfer des hommes (France)
  • A pokolba és vissza (Hungary)
  • All'inferno e ritorno (Italy)
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mike962 DE

◊ 2012-09-10 19:55

 this movie was typical US soldiers are superman while germans are total morons who barelly hit anything and are just canon fodder

Andre Malraux

◊ 2012-09-10 19:59

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mike962 DE

◊ 2012-09-10 20:01

 actually it discredites their own alies and all the nations like France, Norway, Holland, etc who lost to to such an army of imbeciles , the Wehrmacht...

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Andre Malraux

◊ 2012-09-10 20:09

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mike962 DE

◊ 2012-09-10 20:13
Andre Malraux wrote IMO, Wehrmacht was the best, but it lost the war because Germany fought on too many fronts in the same time and because Hitler, instead of following his generals' strategy, wanted to make his own strategy.

you include the Waffen SS inside the Wehrmacht ?

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Andre Malraux

◊ 2012-09-10 20:14

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mike962 DE

◊ 2012-09-10 20:18

 the Waffen SS was considered an Army inside the Army, they always got the best available equippment and the most loyal (fanatic) men , at begining they were discredited by the regular army as party bullies (thugs) but that changed very quickly and they got their fearsome reputation to this day

some historians describe them as "the best fighting men serving the worst possible cause"

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Ingo DE

◊ 2012-09-10 21:18

 Sorry for nitpicking, but there was always a distance between the Wehrmacht and the SS, also the Waffen-SS. The old Wehrmacht-soldiers had always their conceit agains the SS-men. Because they were "real" soldiers and the SS only the party's army. To the SS went the guys, who had been too stupid to be accepted by the Wehrmacht. The SA had the worst reputation, as all stupid, uneducated morons, coming from the lowest social classes. Annother reason for the distance was, that SS-guys were all Nazis, but the most Wehrmacht-soldiers, especially the officers, were nationalistic, reactionary and right-wing, but not really Nazi-supporters.

In pre-war-times it was not easy to join the Wehrmacht. They have sorted out the applicants. The highest standards had been in the pre-Nazi-times, when it was still the Reichswehr. It was the "100.000 Mann-Heer", as regulated in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles (o.k., in fact there were more than 100.000 men, a hidden armament, but the requirements were high anyways).
One of my grandfathers had been a Reichswehr-soldier since 1930 or 1931, and he was always proud of that. Also for one real important reason: until 1933 the soldiers took oath on the Deutsches Reich, afterwards to Adolf Hitler. Even in thefirst years of WWII, the German soldiers kept their internal levels and reputations and had always checked by theirselves "Is he pre- or post 1933?"
It was already in the war, in 1941 or 1942, when my grandfather said to my grandmother "Do you know what? Since today wee aren't allowed to use the military salute any more ( Link to "de.wikipedia.org" ). Only the Hitlergruß is allowed now"

Andre Malraux

◊ 2012-09-10 21:28

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mike962 DE

◊ 2012-09-10 21:38

 yes Ingo , as always you are more detailed than me

and AFAIK for their high loyalty the Waffen SS got always the best stuff, if I remember most if not all the Tiger , Panther etc tanks went to Waffen SS units while the Wehrmacht had to use old Panzer 3 and 4 and pre war French tanks


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Gomselmash11

◊ 2012-09-14 05:53

 Churchill says "Andre Malraux it's a lack of respect" and it's correct because insulting the good people, IMHO.

Lateef NO

◊ 2012-09-14 08:43
Gomselmash11 wrote Churchill says "Andre Malraux it's a lack of respect" and it's correct because insulting the good people, IMHO.

Bullshit. I am sorry but I ask you not to post more comment craps, is bothering me you do not know anything... sorry, but I am correct one more time. Churchill says "AKA-lists" are useless comment craps displaying lacks of respect incredible and Gomsel really should stop." Because I'm correct, you do not listen because.... you think are correct all the time, kid. Okay? Why? Are better people? Is why?

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