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1973 Renault 12 [R1170]

1973 Renault 12 [R1170] in Das zweite Erwachen der Christa Klages, Movie, 1978 IMDB

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: FR

1973 Renault 12 [R1170]

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Gamer DE

2015-08-24 09:17

12?

130rapid PL

2015-08-24 10:35

1973+ logo on grille.

Weasel1984 PL

2015-08-24 14:27

Not 1974? The 1973 brochures still show old logo: http://lesrenaultdepapier.fr/r12.htm
Also R16 had new one since 1974...

130rapid PL

2015-08-24 14:39

OK, I can agree. However I found British market R12s with suffix L (so first registered before July 1973) and new logo. Maybe with grill changed after minor colision? :think:

Weasel1984 PL

2015-08-24 14:43

Or they did change this during the 1973 indeed and it is not "covered" by any brochure. Something similar seems to be with R15/17. There are cars (on period pics) which already have new front logo, but still old rear badges.

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Weasel1984 PL

2015-10-09 18:57

OK, I should treat more critically the 1973 Renault brochures in case of front badging:
1973 model: http://lesrenaultdepapier.fr/CouverturesCatas/1973-%2046%20429%2003%2003.JPG
1973 model ("show car" at Salon de l'Automobile '72): /vehicle.php?id=850776

So 1973 for this badge has to be correct 1st year.

Ingo DE

2015-10-09 19:07

Weasel1984 wrote Or they did change this during the 1973 indeed and it is not "covered" by any brochure. Something similar seems to be with R15/17. There are cars (on period pics) which already have new front logo, but still old rear badges.

:no: Don't trust sales-brochures, especially not their pics!!
Usually the makers didn't take new photos for facelifts, they kept the old one or retouched them with
https://fredspencils.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/staedtler-usa.jpg?w=950
(the youngsters here will not know them).

Weasel1984 PL

2015-10-09 19:13

"Or retouched them" - the new logo is a big event, they wouldn't ignore it IMO. In fact the 1973 MY Renault brochures don't have to be wrong, simply 1973 MY could start (in 1972) with old logo, which soon has been replaced by new one.

Ingo DE

2015-10-09 19:23

Weasel1984 wrote "Or retouched them" - the new logo is a big event, they wouldn't ignore it IMO...

Forget it, nothing is a big event for car-sales-brochure-makers, a shitty wee logo not at all.
Two VW-examples:
1) how to create RHD-versions? Just mirror the photos.
2) how to create "Made for NL"-versions? Just paint the WOB-plate yellow
3) how to create "Made for ZA"-versions? Just replace the photo of a little white boy with the photo of a little black boy

No kidding, all these examples are true.

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Weasel1984 PL

2015-10-09 20:02

Something tells me that all these examples are related to one 1970s model - the one unwanted by its manufacturer, so it is not surprise that they didn't care about its promo materials. :p

Of course in brochures you can meet sometimes "wrong cars", but back to 1973 Renault - if they really already had new badge and placed on brochure closeup on the old one, then it is example of less common inaccuracy. I mean in case of factory brochures, as the ones prepared by importers on their own can be late with such "details".

Ingo DE

2015-10-09 21:21

Weasel1984 wrote Something tells me that all these examples are related to one 1970s model - the one unwanted by its manufacturer, so it is not surprise that they didn't care about its promo materials. :p

No, your inner-brainish voices are wrong. 1) goes for all early-1970ies VW-brochures, 2) is from the 80ies and 3) from the 90ies :p

Weasel1984 PL

2015-10-10 17:44

ingo wrote your inner-brainish voices are wrong.

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Yes, 1) was common also to other manufacturers.

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