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◊ 2006-09-27 19:58 |
Une anglaise à coup sûr, Standard? Morris? Vauxhall?... what else |
◊ 2006-09-28 11:27 |
Morris Isis I année environ 1953 |
◊ 2006-09-28 12:06 |
C'est sûr? parceque l'autre Isis présentée est de 1930 /vehicle_35798-Morris-Isis-1930.html ..avant de changer je préfère te demander |
◊ 2006-09-28 12:14 |
Années '30 = Isis Début années '50 = Isis I 1955 = Isis II Par contre, dans les Isis I du début des années '50, je ne sais pas s'il y a des petites différences |
◊ 2006-09-28 12:17 |
merci Yvon, let's go pour Isis I then |
◊ 2006-09-28 12:29 |
Morris Isis series I and series II were I understand identical to the Morris Oxford except for a lengthened bonnet to take a 6-cylinder engine rather than the smaller 4-cylinder. So I think it difficult to say if the movie vehicle is Oxford or Isis. The Isis did not sell in large numbers and was not a success, the Oxford would have been more common. The Austin-Rover site and Wikipedia have the series I introduced in 1955 and the series II a year later. Between the years 1949 and 1954 the Morris 'Six' was the large model to be replaced by the later Isis. This was quite older in stying having a tapered bonnet and separate front wings. -- Last edit: 2006-09-28 12:38:02 |
◊ 2011-12-10 18:50 |
Was Morris brand positioned below or above Austin? |
◊ 2011-12-10 18:56 |
Morris very slightly above Austin when differences are apparent - eg Morris 1100 Mk1 [ADO16] has more chrome. But differences are so small that it's not really valid, more a case of supplying separate dealer networks and export markets until they were properly integrated in late 1960s. |
◊ 2011-12-10 19:40 |
Same goes for Riley and Wolseley? |
◊ 2011-12-10 19:43 |
They were the more upmarket ones. |
◊ 2011-12-10 19:55 |
OK I'll try this ladder - won't be 100% right down to every detail or comparison, but should be generally reliable. Bottom rung - Austin and Morris 2nd rung - Wolseley 3rd rung - Riley [abolished in 1969] Top rung - Van Den Plas. MG about the same trim/luxury level as Wolseley but with go-faster equipment as well. The only BMC product which used all 6 names in a full ladder was 1100/1300 [ADO16]. Mini never used MG or VdP. ADO9/38 (Cambridge/Oxford etc) never used VdP, etc. |
◊ 2011-12-10 20:09 |
Then strange, that they terminate Riley first. Usually it starts from lower models. |
◊ 2011-12-10 20:24 |
I think it was a realisation that they had too many brands. Riley sales were always low and buyers tended to prefer the MG blend of higher performance with mid-level luxury. Rootes did the same about the same time by dropping Singer and moving the emphasis more onto Sunbeam. |