1973 Ford B-Series Carpenter Coach

1973 Ford B-Series in Silver City, Movie, 2004 IMDB

Class: Bus, School — Model origin: US

1973 Ford B-Series Carpenter Coach

Pos: 01:11:48 [*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene 

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humungus SI

2023-10-06 23:11

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mike962 DE

2023-10-06 23:27

Ford ?

RedBoy9199 DE

2023-10-06 23:30

Yep.

supcoach US

2023-10-07 01:19

Ford B-Series - Carpenter Coach

Bus Single deck NOT School

night cub US

2023-10-07 01:30

I'm not going to get into this argument again, but the school bus lights (red & yellow flashing lights) are clearly visible on the top on the bus

humungus SI

2023-10-07 01:56

The lights on top of this bus also look red and yellow (or orange, if you will), it also has two slots for license/number/whatever plates which I'd only ever seen on a school bus, so I submitted it as such but it was changed to single deck. I don't like to make the same mistake twice, so I remembered that and I submitted this bus as single deck as result, but it was changed to school bus. Now I'm confused. Any advice for any future submissions I might make with buses like this?

dhill_cb7 US

2023-10-07 02:06

Converted/retired school buses should be entered as School Buses. Even if the bus is repurposed for other use after retirement.

Same logic would go for a retired ambulance that was converted to an ice cream truck or a customized camper, or a zombie survival unit.

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supcoach US

2023-10-07 02:10

Yes the warning lights are there and are painted over. Yes it was a former school bus. To me for transporting students to and from school the bus should be yellow in color and the warning lights functional, which being painted over are not.

Baube QC

2023-10-07 02:13

i agree to " Born a school bus, always a school bus no matter what happens "

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supcoach US

2023-10-07 02:30

My argument - In North America, school buses are purpose-built vehicles distinguished from other types of buses by design characteristics mandated by federal and state/provincial regulations. In addition to THEIR DISTINCT PAINT COLOR (National SCHOOL BUS GLOSSY YELLOW), school buses are fitted with exterior warning lights (to give them traffic priority) and multiple safety devices. The current paint color is why I say bus, single deck...

humungus SI

2023-10-07 02:35

I'm obviously fine with and will do whatever you say since I'm in no position to argue. That said, the bus I linked to in my previous comment is listed as single deck. Is it actually a single deck bus or is it a repurposed school bus and should be listed as such?

Baube QC

2023-10-07 02:40

its only paint.. nothing else in its conception changed from the days it was bringing students to their daily nightmare ( well, for some.. :whistle: ) . Just paint it back to school bus yellow and it will blend in with all the other ones..

to me its about like saying that a forklift that belongs to Coke can't lift a Pepsi pallet because of the name on it


Its not different that if i take a MCI Classic and paint it school bus yellow, it still will be a single deck bus

dsl wrote Putting a descriptor such as "ex-school bus" as info should clarify it's not now what it was??

could be but if we start this there is a lot of ex-this and ex-that on the site.. :D

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dsl SX

2023-10-07 02:42

Putting a descriptor such as "ex-school bus" as info should clarify it's not now what it was??

dsl SX

2023-10-07 02:48

Baube wrote ..could be but if we start this there is a lot of ex-this and ex-that on the site.. :D

But we do already in lots of cases - eg ex-ambulance

supcoach US

2023-10-07 03:46

Baube - When I was employed at a state school for disabled students, they actually purchased a GMC PD-4104 and painted it school bus yellow.

Yes, paint is the magic word. If you had/have children would you let them ride the bus, as painted above, to school??

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QueenMDX CA

2023-10-07 05:49

Baube wrote i agree to " Born a school bus, always a school bus no matter what happens "

I agree, too, Baube. Love that saying. :D

antp BE

2023-10-07 11:39

dhill_cb7 wrote Converted/retired school buses should be entered as School Buses. Even if the bus is repurposed for other use after retirement.

Same logic would go for a retired ambulance that was converted to an ice cream truck or a customized camper, or a zombie survival unit.


Or 9C1 police cars repurposed as taxis, they are still listed as 9C1

mike962 DE

2023-10-07 11:51

Baube wrote i agree to " Born a school bus, always a school bus no matter what happens "


was this an ex school bus too ? :D

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tore-40 NO

2023-10-07 13:28

From the pages of NHTSA, a part of USDOT:

Any school bus meeting the identification recommendations of sections l, a-h above that is permanently converted for use wholly for purposes other than transporting children to and from school or school-related events should be painted a color other than National School Bus Glossy Yellow, and should have the stop arms and school bus signal lamps described by sections 1, e & f removed.

School buses, while being operated on a public highway and transporting primarily passengers other than school children, should haVe the words "School Bus" covered, removed, or otherwise concealed, and the stop arm and signal lamps described by sections 1, e & f should not be operated.


(Any typos are left unedited)

RedBoy9199 DE

2023-10-07 13:35

1969 or later.

opal TH

2023-10-07 14:26

73-79 facelift.

Baube QC

2023-10-07 17:06

supcoach wrote

Yes, paint is the magic word. If you had/have children would you let them ride the bus, as painted above, to school??

well, i went for all my high-school years in GM New Look and MCI/Novabus Classic rented from the STL ( which kept the STL livery as they were also used as regular bus ) . I'll give you that they did not stopped in various spots and used the STL bus stops but they were full of students and carrying them to school .

To me the modifications are not extensive enough as all you need to do to turn it to school bus again is paint and few parts ( stop arm, flashing lights ) , its not like it was converted into a motorhome and needed to nearly rebuilt the whole interior to accomodate students once again.

I guess the NHL will send me the Stanley Cup before we agree but it's fine .. :)

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