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1936 Austin Seven New Ruby [ARR] Comments about this vehicle| Author | Message |
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◊ 2022-09-03 21:09 |
Slightly modified, note raised bumper and more offset headlights. May have used parts of a later Bantam or an earlier American Austin. |
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◊ 2022-09-03 21:51 |
Not sure about Tourer - looks to me more like a saloon with fabric roof. Maybe a Big Seven?? |
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◊ 2022-09-03 22:02 |
Van? -- Last edit: 2022-09-03 22:03:06 |
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◊ 2022-09-04 15:35 |
Could be a van as seen. No solid info found that there was a Big Seven van, but one claimed example found (CUO 738) - more pics here. Excellent downloadable A7 booklet says there was a late van "AVK LWB, low frame, 55 cu ft capacity, based on New Ruby ARR, 3-bearing July 1937 to 1939" and "AVK Van July 1937 - 1939 Ruby styled with front body based on ARR; trafficators flush mounted; fabric roof; floor pan raised to provide flat carrying area. Now with steel rather than aluminium body over wooden frame; full Girling brakes from October 1938." with small photo. |
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◊ 2022-09-04 16:08 |
The car in question has a single wide rear window, meaning it's not the van. I think it's a Pearl if it's not a Tourer. I'm not quite following the Big 7 ploy, as the radiator would not extend below the bumper if it were the case. There's also clearly a curved valance that dips well below the axles which would not be present on a Big 7. Compare Big 7 and ordinary 7. |
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◊ 2022-09-04 16:12 |
You just cannot make a sweeping statement like that. The car or whatever it is was 10 or 11 years old at the time, and could have been modified in any number of ways. All you can say with accuracy is that it does not look like the factory’s van design. /vehicle_172437-Austin-Seven-Van-AVJ-1936.html http://www.simoncars.co.uk/austincv/austin7cv.html -- Last edit: 2022-09-04 16:23:34 |
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◊ 2022-09-04 16:14 |
Oh why not? |
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◊ 2022-09-04 16:16 |
Try waiting a minute, I hadn’t finished. |
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◊ 2022-09-04 16:49 |
Big Seven idea was an attempt to explain the mentioned offset lights as it looks a better match for their position than normal 7, but can be abandoned if not useful. As for van/not van, rear window point accepted, but it looks as if there's a solid partial partition behind driver seat (which is why far side rear side window can't be seen, and is odd inclusion for passenger car). An enigma ... Maybe best interpretation is ARR New Ruby Saloon with US format light position and bumper?? |
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◊ 2022-09-04 16:54 |
If we are to indulge in speculations, how exactly would you picture that a factory van could be modified, then? Single-door liftgate? Seems a little hi-tech for the 1940s. Maybe a wagon conversion with those horizontally split rear doors? It's within the realm of possibility, but I doubt somebody would have underdone such a costly conversion, however. Canvas roof and rear door would be a third option, but would also likely have broken the structural integrity of the car. Fourth option, and maybe the most likely if it's truly a van, a swing-door hinged to the pillar. I'm okay with New Ruby, the C-pillar would be thinner on a Pearl. -- Last edit: 2022-09-04 17:01:12 |
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◊ 2022-09-04 21:44 |
In exactly the way you say, with a single door hinged on the driver's side pillar, a conversion encountered here on vans of that vintage. It was only a suggestion and it seemed logical to me. Since you obviously have such greater knowledge I demur to your expertise. |
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