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s13a ◊ 2021-01-24 16:51
Baube ◊ 2021-01-24 18:05	Shell.. nearly looks like one too..
Jamesjacky ◊ 2021-01-24 19:18	Looks like a 1943 Ford V3000 A but the grille doesn't seem to match. At best I would say that it is a V300 A with a slightly altered cab due to safety reagulations but that's very unlikely
Gamer ◊ 2021-01-24 19:22	Alfa used to make trucks, maybe this is one? (with special bodywork of course)
Baube ◊ 2021-01-24 19:42	Jamesjacky wrote Looks like a 1943 Ford V3000 A but the grille doesn't seem to match. At best I would say that it is a V300 A with a slightly altered cab due to safety reagulations but that's very unlikely unless its an ex-military vehicle i highly doubt it would be a 1943 Ford ..
s13a ◊ 2021-01-24 21:41	It's most likely an italian chassis and a coachbuilder. Viberti (coachbuilder) often did a lot of these autobotte's (idk what's the plural for this in italian), but nothing I've looked matches this (so far).
Animatronixx ◊ 2021-01-24 21:55	^ "autobotti" - Italian is a very logical language and kicking it off my to-do-list was probably a mistake... Pretty sure this is Americano-Italian design and rather not a Viberti coachwork, that's how far I came earlier today. I'm expecting an Italian chassis like Fiat, OM, Lancia or something alike.
s13a ◊ 2021-01-24 22:16	Ah yes, indeed. Should have known this by watching many italian movies (shame on me)
Bux_48 ◊ 2021-01-24 22:18	AnimatronixX beat me with the plural Anyway, I'm not an expert of 50s coachbuild trucks but this one really fascinated me and I tried to do a research. I only found this Viberti BC5 on Fiat chassis, I think s13a meant something like this: Link to "www.maronline.org.uk" Link to "www.maronline.org.uk" But it doesn't have a twin rear axle. Yes, I only found pictures of miniatures, and yes, I don't think I've been very helpful -- Last edit: 2021-01-24 22:33:15
Animatronixx ◊ 2021-01-24 23:09	Yeah, we seem to have the same Google, Bux_48... But every contribution helps, step by step. All the Vibertis I found so far have a similar, yet different design with the cab not talking in the same language as the tank body, if you know what I mean. Also, they're not as smooth as the one above, but then again this is an aircraft refueller... So far, all my Italian coachbuilder/ airport vehicle books I checked said "No", the extensive Viberti special magazine said "No No" (because I couldn't find it in my heap of paper. ) but it seems that "cisterna" is another common term. Well, that's it from me for now. My name is AnimatronixX and you're listening to IMCDb. -- Last edit: 2021-01-24 23:29:55
Baube ◊ 2021-01-24 23:14	AnimatronixX wrote ...My name is AnimatronixX and you're listening to IMCDb. you can't leave your listeners without telling us what song is coming up next ! unless its some commercials of course.. -- Last edit: 2021-01-24 23:16:06
Sandie ◊ 2021-01-24 23:18	It'd have to be something related to the subject vehicle Airport by the Motors? Leaving on a Jet Plane?
Baube ◊ 2021-01-24 23:20
Jamesjacky ◊ 2021-01-25 08:25	Sandie wrote It'd have to be something related to the subject vehicle Airport by the Motors? Leaving on a Jet Plane? For me, it looks like a 1943 Ford with an altered cab due to safety regulations built on an Italian chassis? Nothing else seems to much for now. Also there is a picture of the 1943 truck to see if it slghtly looks like the truck.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-01-25 11:11	There seems to be a slight lack of axles, and also, the door is rear hinged, not front hinged as on the Ford. The ventilation holes in the wheels of the Ford are not visible on the subject vehicle, and the windscreen is vee’d and not as flat.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-01-25 14:32	It looks like an Alfa Romeo 900, used by Shell elsewhere, but with coachbuilt cab to suit tank. Does the third axle steer? https://myntransportblog.com/2018/10/19/alfa-romeo/alfa-romeo-900-tanker/ https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/660410732853297498/ -- Last edit: 2021-01-25 14:46:35
Baube ◊ 2021-01-25 15:04	Jamesjacky wrote For me, it looks like a 1943 Ford with an altered cab due to safety regulations built on an Italian chassis? Nothing else seems to much for now. Also there is a picture of the 1943 truck to see if it slghtly looks like the truck. comparing your pic with the main one it s way more than only altered.. its like its totally a different model !
Animatronixx ◊ 2021-01-25 17:42	Breaking news: It also had a driver's side! Source (helpsn't )
Jamesjacky ◊ 2021-01-25 17:44	Baube wrote comparing your pic with the main one it s way more than only altered.. its like its totally a different model ! The V3000 A truck was a German version of the Ford COE truck from the 30s, so as these trucks were also used by the Germans in WW2, I think that the Italian army could have also bought or manufactered some with changes. Yeah, I know what I said sounds very unlikely but could this be military surplus? But yeah the truck also looks like an Alfa Romeo truck
Baube ◊ 2021-01-25 17:59	i don't think the Italian army would have spend so much money and time just to modify them to their liking, they just would have used the truck as it is ( they were at war ,i guess they wouldn't have the time,money or available material/tooling just for change an existing truck's face ) i also think that Shell would have bought a genuine truck rather than a modified this or that but that's only me -- Last edit: 2021-01-25 18:00:39
Baube ◊ 2021-01-25 23:23	the way the headlights stick out here /vehicle.php?id=1475145 made me look at that manufacturer.. then i found Link to "i.pinimg.com" was there other versions of that truck ?
Bux_48 ◊ 2021-01-26 00:22	Maybe you're on the right path Can be based on OM Taurus 340: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/3BUAAOSwUu5fm-K7/s-l300.jpg https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/6QkAAOSwcK1fM~aI/s-l400.jpg Link to "www.picclickimg.com"
Bux_48 ◊ 2021-01-26 00:32	Or maybe even an Isotta Fraschini? https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FOkpf1EuoUc/maxresdefault.jpg There seems to be a corsive script on driver's side in AnimatronixX's pic
s13a ◊ 2021-01-26 01:06	I've been comparing the visible script from AnimatronixX's picture with... Viberti's script : and Viberti-bodied bus --> I still wouldn't completely rule out Viberti as they did various tanks : (source of the ad) (source of the ad)
lightninboy ◊ 2021-01-26 04:32	The U.S.A.'s streamlined tanker trucks were in the latter 1930s. But I suppose it could pay for an oil company to have a fancy tanker truck in a high-profile location like an airport.
Jamesjacky ◊ 2021-01-26 05:51	Baube wrote the way the headlights stick out here /vehicle.php?id=1475145 made me look at that manufacturer.. then i found Link to "i.pinimg.com" was there other versions of that truck ? By looking at the EBAY picture, I'am almost 90/100 sure that this is the same truck, btw it is a good picture: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/6QkAAOSwcK1fM~aI/s-l400.jpg
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-01-26 13:20	What you are almost certain of is that it might be the same cab, nothing more. Even then, it’s only a might be. Dimensions of 10,000 litre fuel tank according to this: - https://www.tanksforeverything.co.uk/Enduramaxx-171050-10000-litre-horizontal-tank If we can agree that this is a minimum of a 10,000 litre truck, 1 litre of fuel weighs about 0.8kg. Plus the tank, pumping gear, extra coachwork etc. the payload on a chassis/cab must be at least 10 tonnes. The OM vehicle being mentioned does not look anywhere near big enough, the Ford would be squashed flat. Comments? Please note: I have added the “minimum of a” qualification after the two comments below made. -- Last edit: 2021-01-26 16:45:03
Baube ◊ 2021-01-26 14:11	other than back to square one , not really..
Animatronixx ◊ 2021-01-26 16:26	Makes perfect sense, John. I don't know enough about Italian truck chassis, but from experience I say: A heavier OM, Fiat, maybe Lancia or anything else of Italian origin is very likely. This vehicle was built to be seen and talked about, hence the fashionable streamline style and the whitewall tires. It's not just a workhorse, it's a business card for the "aviazione" department of Shell Italy, which almost rules out a non-Italian chassis. Do we know which airport this is? Locations are always helpful if we're talking about special vehicles. What I never ruled out (just doubted, because it's usually the first name to drop in such cases) is a Viberti coachwork. I actually hadn't noticed their script when I posted that picture yesterday. Normally that's a detail that wouldn't escape me, but... here we are, things happen. With that revealing script we can be pretty sure it is a Viberti. Does make sense, as Shell wouldn't have hesitated to hire a reknowned premium coachbuilder for this truck. If such a stunning and representative truck almost falls into oblivion, is nowhere to be found a few decades later and didn't even get it's own miniature, that's very strange. Especially, as Viberti vehicles always enjoyed excellent documentation - that's a major reason why we often suspect Viberti over their competitors, who unfortunately were not as busy taking pictures of their output or the camera was full or whatever excuse one can find.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-01-26 16:52	Just for comparison, I do realise that it is an older variant and has only two axles: - Link to "www.carmodel.com" However the colour schemes match, as does the approximate shape. -- Last edit: 2021-01-26 16:55:58
Jamesjacky ◊ 2021-01-26 19:06	johnfromstaffs wrote Just for comparison, I do realise that it is an older variant and has only two axles: - Link to "www.carmodel.com" However the colour schemes match, as does the approximate shape. The truck itself may have a history behind it but that specific model may not have
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-01-26 19:37	I don’t recall saying that it did.

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