Class: Cars, Wagon — Model origin:
8:35
Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase
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◊ 2014-03-31 15:52 |
1955 Rambler Cross Country 4-door station wagon from episode 4.02, 8:35. Getaway car for bad-guy Peter Breck (Whitey Sims), famous later for his Big Valley role. His hostage (driving) is Joan Marshall whose life inspired the movie Shampoo. A Porsche 356 series roadster and an English Ford can be seen as background vehicles during this episode. |
◊ 2014-03-31 18:29 |
In 1955, Rambler was not a separate make. Either a Nash or Hudson. Will use Nash as more common and a way for researchers to locate these cars. |
◊ 2014-03-31 20:40 |
Commander, I used to think so, too. But American Motors' promotional material for the '55 Rambler makes no mention of Hudson or Nash -- they clearly are trying to promote a separate line. Look here: Link to "oldcarbrochures.org" At the same time, you'll also note the is no center badge on the Ramblers used in the sales brochure. There is one on the subject car. It is certainly either a Nash or Hudson badge, as you mention. -- Last edit: 2014-03-31 21:01:01 |
◊ 2014-03-31 22:56 |
It is my understanding that 1955 Ramblers released to the public bore either a Nash or a Hudson badge. There were also no "Rambler" dealerships. These badges were not removed until model year 1957. I agree the brochures attempted to disassociate the model from the Nash and Hudson lines but you could only get them at Nash and Hudson dealerships. -- Last edit: 2014-04-02 22:34:32 |
◊ 2014-04-02 06:28 |
Went back and did some checking...![]() ![]() can you make out the "R" emblem, w/font stylized to resemble the "N" Nash used at the time? Also see what looks like the Pininfarina badge on the C pillar. Actually, I think this one wore the Hudson badge. What do you think? ![]() ![]() So looks like we've got here a rare 1955 Hudson Rambler Pinin Farina Cross Country 4-dr wagon. (probably easier just to leave it as a Nash) -- Last edit: 2014-04-02 07:11:32 |
◊ 2014-04-02 14:10 |
I'm pretty sure the last one shown in your post is the Hudson version. |
◊ 2014-04-02 14:34 |
Close-up of a '55 Hudson Rambler showing an excellent view of the front emblem. Link to "upload.wikimedia.org" By contrast, here's the Nash version. http://www.kzclassiccars.com/pictures/1955-Nash-Rambler-2.jpg Note how the Nash emblem is wider at the top while the Hudson one is slightly wider at the bottom. Based on your additional photos, I'm changing the listing to Hudson Rambler. Thanks. -- Last edit: 2014-04-02 14:40:06 |
◊ 2014-04-02 16:04 |
ok, Commander. '55 Hudson Rambler Custom Cross Country 4dr wagon: 12,023 produced. |
◊ 2014-04-02 16:08 |
BTW, I have a theory regarding the lack of grille emblems in the '55 Rambler brochure. Seems likely that the same brochure was used by both Nash and Hudson dealers. Rather than printing up different sets just for an emblem difference, American Motors simply deleted the emblem from the cars photographed for the booklets. I continue to feel each Rambler left the selling dealership with that dealer's brand emblem on the grille. |
◊ 2014-04-02 22:33 |
A final note. I have discussed 1955 and 1957 Ramblers. What about 1956? Here is a close up of a 1956 Hudson Rambler hood emblem. Link to "upload.wikimedia.org" Nash also used a round emblem but with the Nash name and logo. It is almost impossible to discern the difference at a distance in a photo owing to the two badges having the same size and shape. In 1957, the emblems were changed to an "R" and the separation was complete, with Rambler becoming a distinct make that model year. -- Last edit: 2014-04-02 23:00:56 |
◊ 2014-04-03 02:39 |
You may be right -- here's a photo of a '55 Hudson Rambler without a front badge, but it may have just been removed at some point. Link to "worldcarslist.com" And this '56 Rambler magazine ad brands Rambler separately, but states they're available "At all Hudson Dealers" and "At all Nash Dealers." Link to "oldcaradvertising.com" On the same site, a "tease" ad from George Romney introducing an "All New Car" and inviting readers to see and drive the Rambler at their "Nash Dealers and Hudson Dealers." Link to "oldcaradvertising.com" ...and coming full circle, here's a '56 Rambler (Hudson or Nash?) in background traffic during episode 2.14 @ 3:40 ![]() Seems to me American Motors was trying to create a separate brand with Rambler but couldn't/wouldn't take on the risk and expense of creating a new and separate dealer network, avoiding one of the snares the Edsel would trip into a few years later. -- Last edit: 2014-04-03 16:46:17 |
◊ 2014-04-03 03:01 |
It's hard to say that it's not a Nash or Hudson if it has the respective nameplate right there on the grille. And we have no reason to believe that there was no emblem when each car left the dealership. Current photos, as you alluded, might be of cars where the emblems have disappeared/been removed over the years. Do we have any PERIOD photos of these cars without emblems other than in the brochure? -- Last edit: 2014-04-03 03:02:48 |
◊ 2014-04-03 05:49 |
I'll keep an eye out. Meanwhile, enjoy these if you haven't already seen 'em. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9d8fNyXZRE 1955 Rambler (Nash) w/o badge in this TV ad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNFsFLPcEYc ..and here are a couple w/Pinochio, Jiminy Cricket, Mickey & Minnie Mouse! (Nash ad first, then Hudson. Rambler ad begins at 1:58 -- again, no grille emblem & doesn't look like Disney studio animators, either. Strange.) sidebar: look at 2:48. Is the lady trying to park the Rambler behind a Nash Healey coupe? btw, that '55 Rambler wagon is showing up as a background car in other episodes too: 2.37@ 9:00 for one. -- Last edit: 2014-04-07 05:21:16 |