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◊ 2011-10-31 16:42 |
Park Avenue. Ultra trim, like: /vehicle_23020-Buick-Park-Avenue-1993.html ? |
◊ 2011-10-31 16:43 |
Why specifically 1994? |
◊ 2011-10-31 17:19 |
as it has DRLs it would actually be a 1996 EDIT: Scratch that, this was filmed in Canada so this entire generation had DRLS. -- Last edit: 2011-10-31 17:20:15 |
◊ 2011-11-01 08:50 |
It's a Park Avenue Ultra and it's either a 1991 or 1992 as the 1993-96 Ultra had a different grille. I used to have a '91 Park Avenue Ultra just like it, and as you said, it had DRL. (they are mandatory here since 1990). |
◊ 2011-11-01 09:11 |
of course a Park Avenue |
◊ 2011-11-01 09:41 |
, Yes I know ![]() |
◊ 2011-11-01 14:16 |
A bad law and an utter waste of energy and light bulbs. That silly law was done away with here some time ago. |
◊ 2011-11-01 14:28 |
Now, how can someone see your car approaching where someone is blinded by the setting sun or torrential rain? ![]() As for me, it doesn't matter if the DRL is used or not. I always have my headlights on when I am driving around ![]() |
◊ 2011-11-01 14:34 |
Twilight or rain is a different matter. There is value then. During broad daylight, when cars are CLEARLY visible anyway, it serves no purpose and just adds annoying glare to oncoming drivers. That was why the law was repealed. |
◊ 2011-11-01 16:40 |
They've just made a DRL law across Europe. /vehicle_357249-Citroen-DS3-2010.html is the most annoying as the LEDs are just far two bright and it blinds you if you see one coming toward you from the wrong angle. |
◊ 2011-11-01 16:48 |
Followed an Audi Q5 the other week - the rear DRLs are also too bright because they stop you realising when it's indicating. |
◊ 2011-11-01 17:51 |
Do you mean the rear fog lights? ![]() |
◊ 2011-11-01 18:28 |
It was a sunny Daytime and the Q5 was Running. I don't follow Q5s often enough to have worked out all the particular lighting combinations and which ones are Audi's fault or might be caused by a stupid driver, but it wasn't the brake or reversing lights. |
◊ 2011-11-01 20:06 |
What are you talking about? There was never a DRL requirement law in the US so how could it have been repealed? Even on a clear day having DRLs makes a vehicle visible at further distances than not having them, also if the glare from the relatively dim (compared to say the suns reflection on a windscreen) DRL bothers a driver's eyes and causes a glare then maybe they shouldn't be on the road. -- Last edit: 2011-11-01 20:07:22 |
◊ 2011-11-01 20:24 |
If the glare is so "relatively dim" then what is the point to having the lights on? Any car driver that cannot see an approaching car in broad daylight without its lights on is the one who should not be on the road. (But on this point, you are correct and I was wrong - they were not actually mandated here in the US but they are regulated as to intensity.) -- Last edit: 2011-11-01 20:34:35 |
◊ 2011-11-01 20:36 |
Very useful on oncoming car on single carriageway roads - gives a better sighting of where it actually is for judging whether safe to overtake. |
◊ 2011-11-01 20:45 |
I can remember times, when drivers were able to park their own vehicles without "parktronics". ) |
◊ 2011-11-01 20:46 |
Like I said DRLs are relatively dim compared to other lights that the average driver comes across on a daily basis, they are no brighter than a cars standard lo-beam headlights and plenty of people drive with those on all the time, or the sun reflecting off of any glass or chrome auto parts of the car in front of you, or what about motorcycles and their pulsating headlights? All of these are normal occurrences where the glare is greater than that of the DRLs. There are plenty of studies that say DRLs save lives hence the reason they are required in some countries and if they only save one life isn't that worth it? There are literally hundreds of scenarios where DRLs will help a driver see a car that they could otherwise miss had it not had DRLs (inclement weather, when the sun may be in your eyes (and I don't know where you are from but here the sun is at different points in the sky all day and it gets in your eyes way more than just at twilight), long straight stretches of country roads, tunnels, also just on a cloudy day (it is amazing how a gray or blue car blends in when it is overcast) |
◊ 2011-11-01 20:49 |
Each to his own. You like them (and I'll bet the headlamp manufacturers agree with you). They annoy me. Enough said. -- Last edit: 2011-11-01 20:50:55 |
◊ 2011-11-01 20:54 |
oh that is not even the case, really I don't like them, but I see the point in them and the reasoning behind them. I drive Jeeps which is one of the few makes that still do not have DRLs here in the states, but I do drive with my headlights and fog lights (wrongly I know) on all of the time. |
◊ 2011-11-02 00:44 |
So "made for SCO"? |
◊ 2011-11-02 05:18 |
In the early nineties, some companies made very bad DRL systems that turned on every light (dashboard, parking lights, side markers, taillights). My 1990 Toyota pickup has a system like that. The headlights are turned on at full brightness as soon as the alternator charges and the bulbs in the dashboard are always on (which means they have to be replaced more frequently). I'm happy that my 1993 Pickup was sold new in the US, so it doesn't have this system. (but If I remember well, by 1993 this system was already improved a bit on Toyota (I used to have another 1993 Pickup from Canada) and the dashboard lights weren't on all the time). Other cars like Volkswagen had even worse systems, I think my father's '91 Jetta had it's headlights on as soon as you turned the ignition to on. GM had a better system, at least on cars with automatic transmissions, on my former 1991 Park Avenue Ultra, the headlights turned on just when the car is shifted out of "Park" and the other lights stayed off (unless it was dark outside and the Twilight Sentinel turned every light on). DRL and automatic headlight systems make it quite embarrassing to turn on the ignition when you're at a drive in theatre! |
◊ 2011-11-02 10:16 |
This system was introduced in the 80ies, maybe late 70ies, for Scandinavian countries, where permanent headlight is required. All officially imported "made for S"-vehicles have that, probably all cars made for N, FIN and DK, too. I don't know, how it's in the Baltic states, as in some of them permanent headlight is required only in the winter-times. |
◊ 2011-11-02 14:04 |
For my Chevrolet Aveo, I have DRL, but it doesn't come on until I release my emergency brake. -- Last edit: 2011-11-02 14:25:15 |
◊ 2016-06-18 07:58 |
yeah, some manufacturers like to play like this. My mom's boyfriend has a 1995 or 1996 Cavalier as a courtesy ( not sure of the exact term, he got it from the insurance company )vehicle after his Blazer was stolen and DRL wasn't working when the car was in Park With my Mazda i could turn them off anytime by using the hand brake With the Nissan i have to put the hand brake before turning on the ignition otherwise it won't let me cut the DRL off -- Last edit: 2016-06-18 08:02:48 |