Class: Trucks, Simple truck — Model origin:
Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene
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◊ 2009-08-28 01:17 |
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◊ 2009-08-28 07:14 |
Fordson Thames 7V? |
◊ 2009-08-28 09:10 |
Yes. |
◊ 2009-08-28 09:45 |
In my opinion ,this is not a 1937-1942 Fordson 7V but an older 1935-1936 Fordson model BBX 30 hp V8 Forward Control .Picture is very dark but I can only see the small standing lights on the fenders , not the headlights ( headlights were mounted on the fenders on the 7V) and the lower part of the grille is not pointed as on 7 V's and the cabin is of the older squarer type. |
◊ 2009-08-28 14:47 |
If there is a shot where the registration number is visible we could date the truck. |
◊ 2009-08-28 14:57 |
It's too dark. It's beginning from IW or TW, but numbers are not visible. |
◊ 2009-08-28 17:37 |
This is definitely a Fordson 7V. The earlier model to which pilou alludes had a grille similar to 1937 American Ford trucks, more rounded and protuberant than this. 7V's were originally fitted with these tiny headlights although many operators retrofitted bigger and more effective ones; IIRC Ford may have done likewise on later models - the 7V was in production until 1949. |
◊ 2009-08-29 11:00 |
The grille of the English 1935-1936 Fordson model BBX 30 hp Forward Control was not similar to American Ford trucks but typically English .It was very flat and rectangular .It is the lighter Fordson Model 61 22hp V8 Forward Control 1936-1939 that had a grille similar to American Fords of 1936 vintage with vertical slats . The grille of the Fordson model 7V Forward Control 30 hp of 1937-1942 was narrower towards its lower end and more similar to the 1937 US Ford grille with horizontal slats.( Source :identification chart of Ford vehicles,W.J. Reynolds Motors Ltd., Ford House , New Road ,Dagenham Essex in : " Les Ford d'Henry Ford" by Pierre Dumont Edifree La Vie de l'Auto 1984 ISBN 2-905171-01-4 pp 313-315).So a distinction should be made between teh 30 hp and the 22 hp forward control trucks of British origin. |
◊ 2009-08-29 12:47 |
The registration number information does not help much. IW was issued by Derry, in Northern Ireland and finished in Jan 1949. TW was issued by Essex and finished in Jun 1927. The vehicle could therefore be as new as 1949 (which is newer than I am!) in which case a 7V is possible. It is later than 1927 anyway. I have to say that I think it is more likely to be a 7V with a coachbuilt cab added to the standard Ford front panel. It certainly looks like the 7V with which Mr. Gair used to deliver coal when I was a lad! |
◊ 2009-08-29 15:11 |
I think there is another letter before TW on the (dirty!) plate, which further muddies the water ... like you, john from Staffs, I grew up with these things, which is why I was (and still am) convinced this is a 7V. The bumper is unusual, true, but the screen is the right shape and the little round air-vents are present. |
◊ 2009-09-02 21:02 |
Following a bit of digging around I have found my copy of the Reynolds Motors chart referred to by pilou. The last few words under the 7V entry are "Wire mesh radiator grille March 1942." My copy of the chart is dated November 1945, but the 7V was re-introduced into production after WW2 as a stop-gap until the ET models were introduced, using the flat grille with a straight base. I do not think that this is a BBX. |
◊ 2009-09-02 21:56 |
Thanks, john from Staffs. So in a way both pilou and myself are right: this is a 1942-49 7V, but the 1937-42 model I rermembered with the 1937-American-style grille was also designated 7V. |
◊ 2009-09-26 14:33 |
Indeed it is a Fordson 7V. This would date fromm 1942 to 1946 The bodywork is of a firetender of WW2 period you can clearly see the sidelockers The small headlamps (Butlers) were used through the war period The grille has a square bottom, this could be the utility mesh grille The square panel on the roof is a second skin over the opening sliding roof |
◊ 2009-09-26 15:42 |
A preserved example of a Fordson 7v of the NFS (National Fire Service) showing it looks to be almost identical except without the ladder fitted. Source: http://www.michael-reimer.com/CFS2/CFS2_Profiles/British_Vehicles.htm ![]() |