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1945 Ford F598 T

1945 Ford F598 T in Visa pour l'enfer, Movie, 1959 IMDB

Class: Trucks, Tow-truck — Model origin: FR

1945 Ford F598 T

Position 00:31:49 [*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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DidierF FR

2015-04-07 16:52

With the wrecked Frégate in tow.

[Image: 150407rode59visa062.jpg]
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[Image: 150407rode59visa065.jpg]

The louvres look typical… of what?

DidierF FR

2015-04-11 09:53

Berliet VSFD ?
Link to "www.kfzderwehrmacht.de"

-- Last edit: 2015-04-11 09:54:50

eLMeR MH

2015-04-14 18:54

@ DidierF:
Due to the shape of the hood grid and the one of the fenders, it could be more likely a 1942-45 Ford V3000 / B3000 with the 1943+ simplified hood and fenders.
B would mean a 4-cylinder engine, V a V8. Said here to have been made in Germany, France, Belgium and Holland

But Alexander mentioned post-war models and French versions of these ones (he is no longer part of the IMCDb crew since 2008, so we can't ask him for more details), so I tried to dig a little more: as Visa pour l'enfer is a French movie shot in France (Marseille?), couldn't this truck be a 1945+ Ford F198 T? If so, it would make it the 3rd one identified in the IMCDb...

eLMeR MH

2015-04-16 06:49

On me souffle dans l'oreillette (2 fois, même) qu'il y a aussi le Ford F598 T (F pour France), de 1946-51. Même camion (quelques détails semblent différer) mais charge utile différente : 3,5 tonnes pour le 198, 5 tonnes pour le 598.
Ce dernier a un peu plus de représentants (qu'ils soient bien ou mal identifiés) dans l'IMCDb...

(The 1½-tonne F198 T - F for France- had a "big brother", the 5-tonne F598 T. The latter is more present in the IMCDb but some models could have been mis-identified).

-- Last edit: 2015-04-16 06:58:39

DidierF FR

2015-04-16 14:24

Pour autant que je comprenne, F-198 T et F-598 T sont tous les deux des 3,5T (l'un de 1941, l'autre de 1945) à museau (pas cabine avancée).
http://dvole.free.fr/fordsaf/cam.htm

Que l'engin de la photo soit un Ford français de 3,5T me paraît extrêmement possible (spécialement à voir les ouïes du capot).

eLMeR MH

2015-04-19 03:22

DidierF wrote Pour autant que je comprenne, F-198 T et F-598 T sont tous les deux des 3,5T (l'un de 1941, l'autre de 1945) à museau (pas cabine avancée).[...]

Fouchtre diantre ! Tu as tout à fait raison, amigo mio, et on peut même ajouter le F-798 T à la liste à partir de 1947. Il faudra que j'apprenne à lire, un jour :
[Image: rtacamionsford.jpg]
(Extrait de la RTA de 1951)

:D

(As said by DidierF, no payload difference between the F-198 T and the F-598 T: it's only a matter of model years... The 3.5-tonne F-798 T was also available from 1947 onwards)

-- Last edit: 2015-04-19 03:32:05

eLMeR MH

2015-04-23 20:20

@ DidierF:
For the record, all models shown in the Ford 3T5 category look more like 1942-47 ½-ton and 2-ton US models than to the French ones shown in the link you gave... Anyway, this one can't be a "3T5", as its headlamps are on the fenders, not in them. If a 1946 model, then it fits the F-598 T already mentioned (see the RTA excerpt).

DidierF FR

2015-04-23 20:36

Ah ouais, merde, les phares…

Euh, donc… F-598 T… Bah, euh…

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