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L'ami de mon amie, Movie, 1987 IMDB

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sixcyl FR

2007-11-21 08:14

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If comparison is possible, Eric Rohmer's cinema is actually the opposite extreme of Russ Meyer's one. Hyper-realistic, no fancy, no spectacular actions, psychology of inner relations between characters , no nudity ... and a choice of actress with chest measurement as small as possible :think: :whistle:

Emmanuelle Chaulet
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Sophie Renoir
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Anne-Laure Meury
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90% of the scenes are shot in the "ville nouvelle de Cergy-Pontoise" (Seine et Oise - 95), outskirt of Paris... many pedestrian streets, that's why there are no many cars (and then background cars for best pleasure of Antoine and some others Garco and co ... :D )
Interesting example of the early 1980's architecture ... the worst (up to me) , with good samples of what I hate Riccardo Boffil's 1980's style:

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the tennis player is Yvan Lendl ( He won this "Tournoi de 1987" versus the swedish Mats Wilander)



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Weasel1984 PL

2007-11-22 17:54

sixcyl wrote ... Interesting example of the early 1980's architecture ... the worst (up to me)...

Like many other things from this decade. :D Postmodernism %#*^@! :mad:

G-MANN UK

2007-11-23 12:55

I feel I can't criticize the decade I was born in too much, but it did produce some ugly cars.

Bravada PL

2007-11-23 14:11

You can, actually, to put it that way, you can't criticize the 80s too much ;)

BTW, I was born then too. Not missing them a single bit (though they were significantly different for me than you, for sure ;) ).

antp BE

2007-11-23 14:21

G-MANN wrote but it did produce some ugly cars.

Not much more than other decades I think (I can find more ugly ones in the 90s). It is just that the cars from that era appear now as common, old (but not yet enough), without style because we are used to see them.

Anyway, I like the 80s :p

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G-MANN UK

2007-11-23 16:24

I can barely remember the 80s in a cultural and historical sense, I didn't watch the news when I was that young, only kids programs. When you are a little kid living a sheltered life in a peaceful country like England (the social turmoil of the Thatcher years didn't affect everyone), you just go to school and play with toys.

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Bravada PL

2007-11-24 14:54

I am sorry, but the 1980s were absolutely the worst decade when it comes to cars, even American cars got revoltingly ugly. In the 1990s, even the rather average cars were appealing! It also brought about some terrible fashion, but then a lot of nice music, and I still like 1980s interiors.

As concerns the broader perspective, you know what the 1980s were like in Poland ;)

Skid US

2007-11-24 15:36

There were great cars in the 1980s, especially from Europe. The '80s was hands down the best era for BMW (635CSi, E30, E28, etc.). Also Mercedes best sedan ever, the W124, was designed in the '80s. Don't forget the Jaguar XJ12, the Peugeot 205, and the Lancia Delta.

And screw the Carerra GT...I still want a Porsche 959! :love:

The Japanese had the FC RX-7, the Nissan S13, the Toyota AE86, and my all-time favorite Japanese sports car, the AW11 MR2.

In the U.S. we had the turbocharged Buick V6s, the turbocharged Chrysler 4s, the Fox-body Mustang GT and SVO, the L03-powered Camaro and Firebird, and the Corvette C4.

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Bravada PL

2007-11-24 15:59

Turbocharged or not, American "downsized" and later boxy cars of the 1980s were disgusting - especially the "Grand Whatever" Buicks. I love Buicks, but those aren't real Buicks, they are abominations. Mercedes W124 may be indestructible, but only a 190 is uglier. Other vehicles mentioned are more of exceptions than the rule, and they aren't all that stellar either when it comes to design.

As concerns BMW, I reserve the right to my own opinion (the 1990s seemed to be better, but I guess I can now say the best times for BMW are right now thus far). The 1980s gave us the K-cars, the A-bodies, the Mercury Cougar sedan and wagon (:wow:), the Peugeot 309 and Citroen BX, Renault 9/11, Vauxhall Nova, the XD-XH Falcons... and the list goes on!

Skid US

2007-11-24 16:17

Grand Nationals weren't exactly downsized...they were fairly large cars. And the GNX in particular was a monster: 300 horsepower, 0-60 in under five seconds, and 1320 in 13.4 seconds.

BMW doesn't even exist anymore, as far as I'm concerned. The new ones don't even use oil dipsticks. Who wants to buy an incomplete car...one styled under Chris Bangle, no less?

And don't blast K-cars...apart from being the car that saved Chrysler, they were decently built and had a surprising amount of performance potential.

Ingo DE

2007-11-24 16:38

I agree with Bravada: the most (nearly all) cars of the 80ies were ugly (by the way: fashion and a lot of music, too)

I was born in 1970, and even as a small child I was a car-fanatic. I've learned to read before school-time by car-emblems. So the first words I could read as a five-year-old boy were "Rekord", "Audi 100", "20 M", "NSU Prinz" and so on :D

When I was 12/13 years old, I had decided to be not interested any more in modern cars, because they were so ugly, that they weren't worth to look for them. And since 25 years I'm still holding this opinion.
The reason for my decision were: VW Golf II, Mercedes 190, Ford Sierra, Mazda 626, no kidding. P.S. The Citroen BX, too.
In my school-class there was a boy, who was very proud about the brand new Sierra of his father. I told him my opinion about this ugly piece of sh.. (in my typical way with direct and terse words), that he starts to cry and wanted to beats me. But I was bigger :) He walked back with several "blueprints", given by me with the words "for your father's ugly car"

Guys, take a look in the actual classic-car-magazines. Quite often you can read articles like "So ugly have been the 80ies". Often the journalists are writing bullshit, but here often they're correct.


@Skid: sorry, but you are a bit wrong. The BMW 635 is a car from the 70ies, the RX 7, too (and it's Rotary-engine is from the 60ies). The Carrera is also originally from the 70ies, the 911 as a model from the 60ies.
The Mercedes W 124 had a worse quality (styling anyways) than the W 123 (not to talk about the Mercedes model-range before the W 123).



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Bravada PL

2007-11-24 16:54

I couldn't care less about a Buick's horsepower - for all I care they could be powered by a steam engine (very good for smooth, quiet operation, btw). Buicks are about floating around in class and great style. A downsized goofy-looking coupe that appears to be the effect of garage modding by some crazy Darth Vader fan just doesn't do it. For a proper Buick, see just about any Roadmaster (yes, including the B-body).

And yes, 1980s American cars, even if large, were mostly riding on "downsized" platforms (either "cut-through" versions of old RWD platforms or based on new, less-than-perfect, FWD ones). I love Chrysler and Lee and what he has done for Auburn Hills, but the K-cars and almost all K-based models were disgustingly ugly, at least their first generations.

Sometime ago I've read an article from a journalist who is a classic car lover and writes what amounts to poetry about manually operated wipers and such - he complained that with all the modern technology, we still have to get dirty with dipsticks in most modern cars. Writing from a land of automatic transmissions, why would you want a dipstick?

Chris did a great job of bringing BMW into the next millennium without forgoing their unique style. The current 3er Coupe is perhaps the most appealing car ever. Too bad Mercedes landed on the opposite end of the spectrum...

And 1980s had some awful, but also some timeless music -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Ingo DE

2007-11-24 16:56

P.S. @Skid: the real, authentic, powerful and muscle-cars were made before the first "oil-shock" in 1973. There weren't any restrictions (or politcal correctness) about fuel-consumption, noise and pollution. Until 1973 the car-world was a heaven.

Ingo DE

2007-11-24 17:00

@Bravada: do you like that music? Then I can send you packet with vinyl-LP's (I will add Don Johnson, too). This garbage is still in our cellar, youth-sins of my wife (born in 1974). I would never allow, that they were played on my Braun audio 308.

Bravada PL

2007-11-24 17:26

Don Johnson recorded music? I would stay away from that. Rick is, however, one of the most talented singers of all time.

Ingo DE

2007-11-24 17:29

Bravada wrote Rick is, however, one of the most talented singers of all time.


:think:

Skid US

2007-11-24 17:30

Ingo wrote @Skid: sorry, but you are a bit wrong. The BMW 635 is a car from the 70ies, the RX 7, too (and it's Rotary-engine is from the 60ies). The Carrera is also originally from the 70ies, the 911 as a model from the 60ies.
The Mercedes W 124 had a worse quality (styling anyways) than the W 123 (not to talk about the Mercedes model-range before the W 123).


Point taken on the 635, but I specified the FC (second generation) RX-7, which was designed in the 1980s. I didn't say anything about Porsche 911s, I just said I'd rather have a 959 than a modern Carerra GT supercar.

I've driven both a W124 and a W123 before, and I actually agree on the 123 being a slightly better looking car, though I still insist that the W124 is probaby the highest quality consumer-grade automobile ever produced.

My passion for cars stems from a young age when my aunt and uncle bought me a British book called "The World's Fastest Cars" by John McGovren. This book was full of exotic cars from the 1980s, and as such I still have a soft spot for them. I don't claim that the '80s were the best time for autos (I prefer '50s and '60s, myself), but I'm very attached to some of the nicer cars of the era.

Bravada: If you look into the history of Buick, Buick has always been a luxury brand that has experimented with high performance, going back to the straight 8 roadsters of the 1930s. The Riviera and Grand Sport models of the '60s and '70s continued that tradition, and the Grand National continued it in the 1980s. Separate large models like Roadmasters and Electras have their place right alongside them...and I think it's a shame that Buick doesn't do either one now.

As for oil dipsticks: How do you own a car WITHOUT one? As a person who commutes 20 miles to work each day (and lives 50 miles from the nearest BMW dealer), what would I do if the "check oil" light came on while commuting? Call a tow truck and have the car towed to a dealer, then wait for him to drain all the oil out to measure and check it for me? Why not just include a dipstick so I can check it myself before I leave the house?

To me, it's an incomplete car. It's like buying a car with no hood. You might be able to drive around and rev the engine up and have a good time for a while, but the lack of hood is only going to cause headaches down the road...same with the lack of a dipstick. Dumbest design idea EVER.

If you guys wish the continue this discussion, hit me up on the forums, since antp has said he doesn't like extended discussions in the database.

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antp BE

2007-11-24 17:43

Ingo wrote I agree with Bravada: the most (nearly all) cars of the 80ies were ugly (by the way: fashion and a lot of music, too)


I disagree, I like the 80s :D
I like the BMW E30 & E36, more than newer models
I like the Renault 11 and Citroën BX too :o (in fact, if I had to buy a cheap car I'd buy that: cheap to buy & use, very reliable, Citroën's suspension)

Skid wrote
If you guys wish the continue this discussion, hit me up on the forums, since antp has said he doesn't like extended discussions in the database.

Indeed this should be continued there...

Bravada PL

2007-11-24 17:50

The only reason I will let you get away with calling a BX "very reliable" is that you've added the "made in" field :D

DynaMike NL

2007-11-24 17:55

:D Well, our 16 year old BX with 300.000 kms is still as new. It just needed good maintenance... And Antoine is right: extraordinary good suspension for a cheap car (we paid 500 euros...)

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