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◊ 2006-08-05 01:11
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You guys will have to forgive me... I can't idenify any vintage cars.  -- Last edit: 2006-08-05 01:12:09 |
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Explorer4x4 ◊ 2006-08-05 01:15
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Neither can I (and look what a mess).... Hell, I thought a 1960s Chevrolet Suburban was a 1950s Ford full-size SUV! But I make up for it in Tempos  . |
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◊ 2006-08-05 01:26
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◊ 2006-08-05 01:53
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Hey, Antp- do you think we could have a class for vintage cars? |
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◊ 2006-08-05 03:40
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I can't Identify most Vintage cars. |
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◊ 2006-08-05 03:47
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sure you can, just search out old car pics on the internet, locate, compare and verify, this is a good place to start http://oldcarandtruckpictures.com/ |
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◊ 2006-08-05 09:57
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That is a good idea .gif ":)") |
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◊ 2006-08-05 10:52
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I think that we already discussed about that. Actually most of these old cars could be listed as convertible or sedan, I guess? We could add a category for old cars to not have to put all of them in convertible (as at that time all were convertibles I guess), but what will be the criteria for selecting the category? |
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◊ 2006-08-05 11:01
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...sorry but I missed it  ... i think we could add Torpedo/Berline Découvrable for ex, which is category missing between Sedan and Cabrio/convertible |
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◊ 2006-08-05 11:28
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Some are also called "Phaeton". -- Last edit: 2006-08-05 13:51:14 |
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◊ 2006-08-05 11:40
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Avec un "H" après le "P" me semble-t-il. Phaéton. .gif ";)") |
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◊ 2006-08-05 12:46
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We should not mix body styles and age. But an extra age classification would be very helpful, especially for searching through the database. Here is a list of names for historic periodes: * Class A, Ancestor, from the begining to 31. December 1904 * Class B, Veteran, 1. January 1905 to 31. December 1918, also called Edwardians (GB), Brass (USA) or Kaiserzeit (D) * Class C, Vintage, 1. January 1919 to 31. December 1930 * Class D, Post Vintage, 1. Januar 1931 to 31. December 1945, also called Pre-War (GB) * Class E, Post War, 1. January 1946 to 31. December 1960 * Class F, Wirtschaftswunder, 1. January 1961 to 31. December 1970, in some countries this is still called Post-War, in the official statutes of the FIVA no name is given * Class G, Youngtimer, 1. January 1971 to 31. December 1980 These classes are being internationally used by FIA, FIVA and nationalen automobile clubs. There is an inofficial Class H for future classics, i.e. modern (post 1980) cars that will be recognised as important at future Concours d'Elegance. As this means a selection by style (=personal taste) it is not very useful for age related classification. To be able to have a more detailed classification for modern cars, I would suggest to use it in the following way: * Ancestor - 31. December 1904 * Veteran - 31. December 1918 * Vintage - 31. December 1930 * Post Vintage - 31. December 1945 * Post War - 31. December 1960 * 60s - 31. December 1970 * 70s - 31. December 1980 * 80s - 31. December 1990 * 90s - 31. December 2000 * Modern - everything since -- Last edit: 2006-08-05 12:47:55 |
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◊ 2006-08-05 13:51
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It could be nice to sort cars by such categories rather than alphabetic list of model names. But that does not help for the current problem, i.e. what category for these old convertibles... Can they be called "convertible"? Bebert >> heu oui, faute de frappe -- Last edit: 2006-08-05 13:51:52 |
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◊ 2006-08-05 14:25
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Some could be classed as 'racecar'. Adding extra classes might be a problem, as there are a lot. See here for a French nomenclature for vintage cars.  These names changed over time and over borders. This would get us hundreds of classes and a problem in comparing vehicles from different countries or different epoches. Let me suggest something else: We could get a third classification level, in which a greater number of sub-classes can find place. Some examples: car - open - cabriolet car - open - roadster car - open - phaëton car - closed - sedan car - closed - limousine truck - single - pantechnicon truck - semi - low-loader truck - tractor - all-wheel-drive ... As this is certainly more difficult to use (anyone afraid of that?) we could have examples for each class and sub-class in the -- not yet existing -- glossary or in the forum.Also we should make sure that the sub-classes are translatable into French, English (AE and BE), German, and perhaps others, if needed. -- Last edit: 2006-08-05 14:29:30 |
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◊ 2006-08-05 14:31
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Adding so many classes will add difficulties. We already have many errors in class selection. And about translation, I planned to add few languages. By the way, if you agree of update the German translation, I can send it to you, as several things were modified since you made it. |
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◊ 2006-08-05 14:33
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Sure, send it over! |
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◊ 2006-08-07 06:22
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On another note, I just watched the Grand Prix scene again and I noticed some signs in the background- "MERCEDES-MOTOBLOC-FIAT-RENAULT" Maybe that will help in identifying the unknown racecars? |
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◊ 2009-06-26 08:45
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I tripped over this page when I was googling some early Fiat information. It dates from before I got involved with this site. I think I can help with identifying some of thew old race cars. I haven't found much info on this subject but I suspect that most of them are 'made for movie'. There are exceptions though. The car in the last thumb is the 1908 Hutton car known as "Little Dorrit". See also some other comments on the individual pics. |
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