1958 Land-Rover 109'' Series II

1958 Land-Rover 109'' Series II in The Doombolt Chase, TV Series, 1978 IMDB Ep. 1.05

Class: Cars, Off-road / SUV — Model origin: UK

1958 Land-Rover 109'' Series II

[*][*][*] Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase 

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eLMeR MH

2015-11-16 03:55

Rounded belt line + headlamps between the wings indicate a 1958-61 Series II / 1961-68 Series IIa. In any case, this Series has a long 109"/2.77 m wheelbase.

(1958 Series II used here as default identification)

dsl SX

2015-11-16 05:01

When did sidelights go horizontal at front instead of vertical?? I think vertical was earlier, so does horizontal mean SIIa?? If it does we've got s huge amount of sifting to do .....

eLMeR MH

2015-11-16 05:38

When shown with 2 sidelights, all 1958-68 Series II/IIa have horizontal ones in the brochures. They apparently go vertical only in the 1969+ brochures, with the headlamps in the fenders. I'm afraid we can't use this to differentiate the models, even if some 1958-68 models have sidelights in such direction :)

dsl SX

2015-11-17 04:21

See this one - /vehicle_664125-Land-Rover-109---Series-IIa-Station-Wagon.html from 1970 Malta film . It's a bit strange as 2 Landies used - one with mismatched wings, the other with twin close packed verticals which is different spacing from the 69+ pattern, and is what I was thinking of as pre-horizontal. I don't know Landies and I've seen the sequence in your brochures link, but still think there is something afoot which we might be able to pin down.

jcb UK

2015-11-17 08:04

Military S11A 's always had vertical sidelights / indicators for some reason.
Link to "d3d9npwwya966f.cloudfront.net"

Sunbar UK

2015-11-17 13:49

Also it is obvious I think the number plate looks completely wrong for Royal Navy series so a dressed up civilian vehicle I guess.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/austin7nut/4492398533

(I cannot comment on horizontal side-lights in the link, as the finer details of all Land Rovers are completely beyond me.)

eLMeR MH

2015-11-19 04:40

@ dsl:
For now, the only external clue I know to tell a Series II over a 1961-68 Series IIa is the way the hinges of the windshield vents are fixed: screwed for the older model, welded for the more recent.

Horizontal side lights are said here to have been used on the Series II, but there is no mention of the way they were on the early Series IIa, which could imply that there were unchanged.
This US site also says that:
Quote The SII commonly had amber glass turn signal lenses on the front fenders. The SIIA's commonly had clear glass

This could be a perfect clue if... the adverb commonly wasn't used twice. For me, this means that most of them were that way, but also that some models could have the opposite, so that we can't use it as the "ultimate clue"...

I'm sorry, I'm afraid I can't help more :/

dsl SX

2015-11-19 05:00

Thanks. I could only ask the question without knowing if it was useful or not. If the military explanation is good, it's solved. My Malta Landies were not good examples to start from, but the only ones I could think of.

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