1939 Muir-Hill M-Type Fordson-based site dumper
1939 Muir-Hill M-Type in Land of Promise, Documentary, 1946
Class: Others, Construction & Engineering vehicle — Model origin: 
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Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene
Comments about this vehicle
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◊ 2014-08-30 01:50 |
![[Image: 38-59m-hdumper49-55.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/10314/38-59m-hdumper49-55.jpg) Re-used from /vehicle.php?id=733529 |
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◊ 2014-08-30 02:07 |
Fordson based: https://www.flickr.com/photos/albertsbite/5431671500/ |
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◊ 2014-08-30 19:31 |
Am naming all of these as "1939 Muir-Hill unknown Fordson-based site dumper" until we get more information to resolve further. |
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◊ 2014-08-30 19:45 |
according to this seems this things where originaly Fordson tractors converted to dumpers by Muir-Hill see here they probably reversed the gearbox, the rear axle became the front one http://tractors.wikia.com/wiki/Muir-Hill -- Last edit: 2014-08-30 19:46:49 |
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◊ 2014-08-30 20:05 |
Agreed - but Aveling-Barford did them as well - Link to "books.google.co.uk" (page 107), which seems to have been a Ministry of Supply contract, possibly offered across manufacturers, maybe others as well. So we haven't got the full story yet for a definitive ID, and this is the best I can think of as interim. |
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◊ 2014-08-30 20:09 |
if the design was the same you can't really distiguish them and you have to put a producer by default (unless a producer added very distinct small features) this is the nature of military/ war contracts this truck called "Einheitdiesel" was build the same 9 companies for the Wehrmacht Link to "www.kfzderwehrmacht.de" -- Last edit: 2014-08-30 20:11:54 |
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◊ 2014-08-30 22:47 |
Yes. So we either choose one manufacturer to represent them all - which at the moment seems best as Muir-Hill because it has the most references - and then have to remember its usage; but we do something similar for various tanks etc, so it is a workable device. Or we hope to find an official project name to cover them all, whoever made them - I think we have some of these generic descriptors in use, so that's OK as well if/when such a name emerges. Or we discover ways of separating M-Hs from A-Bs and from whoever else may have done them. (We have nothing else like these buried within our other A-Bs or M-Hs, so no other namings apparent). Until then, we can use this holding name as an interim - it looks pretty accurate to me from what we know now and is not wrong - just not as precise as I'd like for a final name. But we need to register it to keep this set together, plus remembering to use it if we find more examples. -- Last edit: 2014-08-30 22:54:57 |
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◊ 2014-08-30 22:51 |
why register ? even including this there are extremly few Muir-Hill on IMCDB so very easy to track them down -- Last edit: 2014-08-30 22:51:47 |
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◊ 2014-08-30 23:02 |
Because imcdb is wider than you and me and JCB. Maybe the next one will crop up when none of us is looking, so someone else will have to recognise and deal with it. |
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◊ 2014-09-02 10:30 |
These are all M-Type , in production from early 1930s to 1945 when Muir-Hill introduced the 10S and 10B to replace them . Based on the newly introduced Fordson Major E27N the 10S had a fixed facing forward driving position and the 10B had a reversible driving position to face either way . Make is definetly Muir-Hill only engine gearbox are Fordson, like much 1940s / 1950s construction equipment . This is 10B - ![[Image: untitled.2.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/3808/untitled.2.jpg) ![[Image: untitlemd.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/3808/untitlemd.jpg) All the Muir-Hills listed are Muir -Hills except the El Tunnel 6 one . /vehicle_279063-Muir-Hill.html -- Last edit: 2014-09-02 11:53:44 |
