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◊ 2013-03-01 00:28 |
Body-coloured bumpers should mean 1986+ Corniche II (if not III or IV) The Silver Shadow sedan only ever had black bumpers. |
◊ 2013-03-01 12:36 |
However I've just noticed it doesn't have body-coloured door mirrors... |
◊ 2013-03-01 21:33 |
It would not be unusual to see an older car with a painted bumper (we seem to have quite a few of them) but I'm not sure you are wrong here as equally we have some cars listed as IIs without painted mirrors cf: /vehicle_10479-Rolls-Royce-Corniche-II-1987.html . However, as far I'm aware both of these bumpers and mirrors being body-coloured are features of a II (though my information could be wrong). Here's a car with both (and it seems the later wheel design that I *think* was a feature of a II) that isn't listed as a II: /vehicle_550161-Rolls-Royce-Corniche-1984.html I'm confused. A lot of our Corniches seem to be listed as various things without much of an explanation. For this one, if it is not a II it is not far off as it has no headlamp wipers which were removed around 1983/84. I'd just leave it as a II pending more detailed analysis as it is not that wrong (if it is even wrong). |
◊ 2013-03-01 22:03 |
For the points ^ in UK, Glass's says: July 78 - headlamp wipers fitted March 81 - Corniche Saloon discontinued July 84 - colour-keyed bumpers and mirrors, rear fog and reversing lights on new panel, revised seats & dash. (No mention of headlamp wipers being removed at this point or elsewhere, but Oct 84 was when they were removed from Spirit/Spur so seems likely here) Jan 87 - Fuel injection and ABS, but no other change mentioned Oct 87 - Corniche II name introduced with new boot badge, seat/console changes Sept 88 - more seat changes Jan 89 - increased power, minor interior tweaks Sept 89 - renamed Corniche III, alloys, new dashboard Jan 92 - renamed Corniche IV - 4 speed auto and improved central locking Sept 92 - glass rear window, fully reclining hood Sept 93 - new seats again and oily bits updated July 95 - discontinued (when they finally exhausted all their ideas for changing the seat pattern?). |
◊ 2013-03-01 22:29 |
Which ones? I really don't think I named that red one. |
◊ 2013-03-01 23:30 |
I don't think you're the one to blame but there seems to be a lot of confusion around the details mentioned on this page. We have cases where very similar looking cars are named as different things. Cf: /vehicle_333006-Rolls-Royce-Corniche-1986.html and /vehicle_10479-Rolls-Royce-Corniche-II-1987.html and you have odd cases like this: /vehicle_448125-Rolls-Royce-Corniche-II-1986.html I'd also be curious to know why some IIs are listed as 1986 and others 1987. Is one right and the other wrong or is there some difference between them? So basically my confusion revolves around the points related to the body coloured parts. Was there a period where you could have body-coloured bumpers but chrome mirrors? An additional problem with these cars is that to identify them unless there is an interior shot or a plate number we often have to focus on non-solid identification points like the bumpers, wheels and mirrors that are so often changed around which leads to us getting confused and going round in circles. And if what dsl has quoted from Glass's is true then that makes things even more complex as what we think makes a II might just make a later non-II. |
◊ 2013-03-01 23:53 |
At least on the Hulk Hogan one you can just about see that the badge on the back says Corniche rather than Corniche II. |
◊ 2013-03-02 00:20 |
Noted from Corniche II page http://www.rrsilvershadow.com/EMod/Corniche%20II.htm - "Years of production: from 1986 up to and including 1989, on non-American markets from 1988". If true, that suggests US and rest-of-world had parallel sequences 86-Oct 87, which may explain some of the chaos. |