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1929 Rolls-Royce 40/50 h.p. 'Silver Ghost' Springfield Piccadilly Roadster [186KF]

1929 Rolls-Royce 40/50 h.p. 'Silver Ghost' [186KF] in Funny Lady, Movie, 1975 IMDB

Class: Cars, Convertible — Model origin: UK — Built in: US

1929 Rolls-Royce 40/50 h.p. 'Silver Ghost' Springfield Piccadilly Roadster [186KF]

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Ingo DE

2010-07-18 19:49

It doesn't really look like an original one.

dragonboy AU

2010-07-19 01:54

not a rolls-royce 25/30 from the 30s?

Ingo DE

2010-07-19 10:34

Maybe it's a spacial bodywork -I'm not a RR-specalist- , but for me it looks too American style and rather Replica-like.


@robgeleen: :hello:

chris40 UK

2010-07-19 10:54

Is it perhaps a 1926 Springfield 40/50 h.p. like http://www.aacamuseum.org/images/jwr/1926-Rolls-Royce-Ghost-side.jpg (wrongly called a Silver Ghost)?

Ingo DE

2010-07-19 11:27

Hmmm, the part around the windscreen looks different.

chris40 UK

2010-07-19 15:00

Different coachbuilder, maybe? It has some similarities ... tubular bumper, sidemount, and some differences, such as the headlights, but I still think it's a genuine Springfield Royce.

chief tin cloud CH

2010-08-17 21:43

All Silver Ghosts, New Phantom and Phantom II are 40/50 h.p., and these are the only three models that were built in Springfield.

My guess is either a Ghost, or a PI because of the bumper bar. These items were sometimes replaced by later-style twin-blade bumpers. Anyway, fenders are definitel too young for a RR with that bar, so they were mounted later. General impression of the body is that of a Brewster convertible. They catalogued at least 4 of them, the Henlex, the Playboy, the Regent, and the Pall Mall. I think it is one of the ladder.

chris40 UK

2010-08-18 10:19

IIRC strictly speaking, only one vehicle should be called Silver Ghost, the famous AX 201. All other 'Ghosts' are correctly called 40/50 h.p. I would favour Phantom I for this one.

-- Last edit: 2010-08-18 10:25:09

park-ward FR

2012-02-25 20:41

It is a Springfield Silver Ghost, chassis #186KF which was "modernized", including a conversion to lhd steering. It was in the "Cars of the Stars" museum in Buena Park, Cal. Actually its original owner was Charlie Chaplin !

chris40 UK

2012-02-25 22:12

[:prosterne]

chicomarx BE

2012-02-28 19:35

1929 Piccadilly Roadster.

park-ward wrote It is a Springfield Silver Ghost, chassis #186KF which was "modernized", including a conversion to lhd steering. It was in the "Cars of the Stars" museum in Buena Park, Cal. Actually its original owner was Charlie Chaplin!


[Image: chaplinrolls3.jpg]

"A Rolls Royce, vintage: 29, once the prized property of Charlie Chaplin was parked five stalls down from Spitfire autos owned by Norma Talmadge and Daryl Zanuck. Pictured here is Charlie Chaplin's car."

http://earlyamusementparksoforangecounty.blogspot.com/2009/08/more-of-movie-world-cars-of-stars.html

[Image: chaplinrolls1.jpg]

chicomarx BE

2012-02-28 19:40

Piccadilly or Picadilly? I'm seeing both.

chris40 UK

2012-02-28 20:04

Two c's, two l's ;)

chicomarx BE

2012-02-28 20:09

Ok. American postcards...

One more reference:

"One of the earliest drive-on parts for a Rolls-Royce was when Chaplin took a 1925 Springfield Silver Ghost for a spin in City Lights. For himself, he ordered a 1929 Rolls-Royce Piccadilly Roadster with - dear me - whitewall tyres. It was almost as ostentatious as the 1928 Mercedes SPL built specially for Al Jolson."
-Punch, Volume 290, Part 1

Couldn't find the current whereabouts.

-- Last edit: 2012-02-28 20:23:06

BorisMiller DE

2021-09-06 11:09

I have the exact same car. Picadilly Roadster 1929

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