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◊ 2006-04-08 00:41 |
Car on the left. |
◊ 2006-04-08 19:01 |
Chevrolet truck ? |
◊ 2015-04-29 16:34 |
"Ton" should be capitalized. I'm curious if eLMer knows about Chevy trucks this old... |
◊ 2015-04-30 16:51 |
I know that I know nothing I never really searched so far back in automotive history (except for some personal works like for this Saurer or for this Citroën 5HP), and for now the oldest Chevrolet literature I saw is small scans said to have been made from a 1923-24 brochure: (1-Ton vs. -½-ton?- Light Delivery - Could the use of the word "Lorry" indicate a British brochure, or did US people still use it at that time?) It seems that for most of the trucks until the 40s/50s, the difference was mostly seen through the wheelbase, so if you keep in mind that • I didn't search about the vehicle of this page, • I don't say it's one of the two shown in the brochure (all the more as the windshield seems to be different), I'll say that giving it the 1-Ton name could be seen as jumping quickly to conclusions as the wheelbase / overall length is not visible and as "our" truck seems somewhat "short-legged" when comparing to the 1-Ton of the brochure. Now it's time for real researches -- Last edit: 2015-04-30 17:15:58 |
◊ 2015-04-30 19:30 |
Lorry and hundred-weight (cwt) makes me think they are adverts for the UK. Both the Chevrolet 1-ton and 10cwt trucks (lorries) and vans were commonly imported from Canada. Morris, Chevrolet ½-Ton and Ford vans in London 1928. Chevrolet 1-Ton van |
◊ 2015-04-30 21:51 |
According to Stevens-Stratten, "British Lorries 1900 - 1992" (bear with me) Chevrolet trucks were assembled in Hendon in the late 1920s, ending with the 30cwt LT and LQ models. Following the move to Luton, the vehicles dropped the Chevrolet name and became Bedfords upon the introduction of the 1931 model range. Further but presumably earlier dated information from "Modern Motor Cars" edited by Arthur W Judge and published about 1928 as it includes the Ford Model A, shows Chevrolet 10cwt and 1ton vehicles which used the 21.7 RAC HP four cylinder OHV engine as fitted to the cars imported from Canada and the appearance of which closely match those shown in the adverts. The wheelbase of the small truck is 8ft 7in and the larger is 10ft 4in. S-S says that the Hendon assembled vehicles used the Chevrolet "stove-bolt" six cylinder engine, so suggesting that those models were built from USA supplied kits. The follow on Bedfords seem to have used a similarly sized but more modern engine with pressure instead of splash crankshaft lubrication, which remained available for many years. It would have been a more simple matter to just continue importing Chevrolet trucks, had not the McKenna duties been re-instated on 1st May 1926 and their use extended to cover commercial vehicles. No doubt this encouraged GM to Anglicise its truck production. So, trying to put a time-line on this, Canadian imports with four cylinder engines, then Hendon assembly of American supplied kits, then Bedfords. Anyone agree? -- Last edit: 2015-04-30 22:47:55 |
◊ 2015-05-01 04:28 |
Maybe not about his part: the first Stovebolt engine was unveiled in 1929, while the first Bedford vehicle was produced in 1931. So saying "more modern" for the Bedford engines, even if they were technically more complex, is not really accurate. For the rest, it's Ok with me... as long as no one provides another source saying something else _____ By the way, we should better open a thread in the forum if we keep talking about the presence of GM in UK (and I'd like to): this page is about a US truck in a US movie, so let's try not to mess up its identification by leaving too much non-relevant data. -- Last edit: 2015-05-01 04:47:24 |
◊ 2015-05-01 05:30 |
Just waving a flag that a parallel suggestion from the car side could be relevant which came from this (unexpected) page - /vehicle.php?id=793098 If you want to open a forum thread, my guess is that both cars and trucks would have had similar scenarios, so it's a 2-pronged exercise. But I reached the end of my map with the link above, so it would need new input to pursue further. |