1958 Electruk Rider E15

1958 Electruk Rider E15 in The Spare Tyres, Short Movie, 1967 IMDB

Class: Others, Ground conveyor — Model origin: UK

1958 Electruk Rider E15

[*][*][*] Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase 

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jcb UK

2024-08-26 18:23

Lewis Electruk ?


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rjluna2 US

2024-08-26 18:42

Interesting :sun:

DVLA wrote TCE 960
✗ Untaxed
Tax due: 1 June 2011

MOT
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Vehicle Details
Vehicle make: THLEWIS
Date of first registration: August 1958
Year of manufacture: 1958
Cylinder capacity: Not available
CO₂ emissions: Not available
Fuel type: ELECTRICITY
Euro status: Not available
Real Driving Emissions (RDE): Not available
Export marker: No
Vehicle status: Untaxed
Vehicle colour: GREEN
Vehicle type approval: Not available
Wheelplan: NOT RECORDED
Revenue weight: Not available
Date of last V5C (logbook) issued: 22 December 2010

jcb UK

2024-08-26 20:36

Maybe still around then :)

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mike962 DE

2024-08-26 22:09

looks like a Ross

[Image: helecs-rider-pram-1955-rlw-610-express-dairy-220413-1024x1024.jpg]

https://zavanak.com/ev-makes-1950-to-1990/mm-to-wales-edwards-we/


Quote Ross
Established in 1949, Ross Auto Engineering of Southport entered the electric vehicle market in 1955 when it took on the manufacture of Helecs vehicles from Hindle Smart. It built 168 10 cwt Rider Prams for Express Dairy that were to the design of T H Lewis (an Express Dairy subsidiary) which lacked the capacity to build them. This deal was actually a sub-contract from Hindle Smart and explains why the vehicles carried Helecs maker’s plates and not Ross ones.

In 1956 Ross started producing its own 10 cwt and 25 cwt floats, followed by the Minor 5 cwt model. It also announced the Ross Auto 25 as a 25 cwt milk float. This compact four-wheeler was fitted with only 16 cells and had a 2.6 hp motor pushing it up to 8 mph with a full load. It featured a fully integrated body and cab in preference to the Rider Pram concept. By the 1960s this had given way to the 1 ton Beaver and the 1½ ton Major models.


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mike962 DE

2024-08-26 22:12

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jcb UK

2024-08-26 22:58

It is registered as a Lewis and second thumb has Elektruk plate on side.
So for me it is a Lewis Electruk.
See Wiki
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Electruk

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Jale PL

2024-08-26 23:08

Model EC Rider Pram?

"T H Lewis was a coachbuilder in London, founded in 1854. The firm entered a contract with by Express Dairy in 1873 to deliver the milk across London. It built most of its horse-drawn floats and hand carts for that purpose, as well as bodywork on chassis from other firms. The company was taken over by Express dairy in 1931.

It started making three-wheel pedestrian controlled milk delivery prams in 1937, branded as Electruks. In 1949, a four-wheel version, called the EB, was brought out. Five years later the EC Rider Pram was unveiled, a compact driver-controlled 25 cwt milk float with tiny wheels and a very basic forward control cab. This in effect was a PCV with a basic cab bolted on to the front of it. Express Dairy bought 1,400 of these 25 cwt Rider Prams – which may have had the designation Rider EC. One of its principal features was a claimed ability to surmount a 1 in 4 gradient (25% grade). In 1955 Electruk showed off its type AER, which followed the trend of adding a box behind the cab able to carry some ice and enable the vehicle to carry perishable goods."

https://zavanak.com/ev-makes-1950-to-1990/bedford-to-energyelec/

mike962 DE

2024-08-26 23:17

jcb wrote It is registered as a Lewis and second thumb has Elektruk plate on side.
So for me it is a Lewis Electruk.
See Wiki
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Electruk

it may be registered but can you find a single one who looks like main ???

while with Ross you find plenty who look spot on

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jcb UK

2024-08-26 23:19

A very confusing progeny.
However we seem to have them named as ' Electruk Rider ' and we already have 16 of them .

/vehicles.php?make=Electruk&model=Rider+E15&modelMatch=1&modelInclModel=on


So 'Electruk Rider' it is for me.

mike962 DE

2024-08-26 23:24

then the question who do this Ross look exactly the same?

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Jale PL

2024-08-26 23:26

Model EC:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/74342867@N03/16120143861

Fleet number as RP205 or RP499 suggest name Rider Pram:

https://expressdairytales.uk/ed-transport-retail

We can list all of them as Pram but this E15 rather is from one of the later models, not for all of them...

mike962 DE

2024-08-26 23:27

^ here that pic again listed as

Helecs 'Rider Pram'

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https://www.wythall.org.uk/vehicles/vrlw610.asp

and to come back to my previous point they were actually build by Ross then

Quote Ross
Established in 1949, Ross Auto Engineering of Southport entered the electric vehicle market in 1955 when it took on the manufacture of Helecs vehicles from Hindle Smart. It built 168 10 cwt Rider Prams for Express Dairy that were to the design of T H Lewis (an Express Dairy subsidiary) which lacked the capacity to build them. This deal was actually a sub-contract from Hindle Smart and explains why the vehicles carried Helecs maker’s plates and not Ross ones.


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Jale PL

2024-08-26 23:38

"T H Lewis, owned by Express Dairy, constructed a huge number of them, assisted by other manufacturers." - then it's impossible to determine which manufacturer produced which vehicle without specific information. If the one in the main photo was registered as TH Lewis, then could not have been produced by Ross. But as it was sold under the Electruk brand, then make should be Electruk.

jcb UK

2024-08-26 23:39

The one in the film has an ELECTRUK nameplate on the side as seen in thumb picture so there is no doubt about it.
From what I can gather T H Lewis made around 2000 Electruks and Ross helped out by making 168 to same design.



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mike962 DE

2024-08-26 23:40

^ ok that makes sense


but boy subcontracting to a company who in turn also subcontracts another company is just big WTF :o


BTW JCB that elusive britsh golf cart found it
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jcb UK

2024-08-26 23:53

Well done on golf cart.

We may yet find a Ross but only way to tell from a Electruk would be if reg.no. on dvla records.

There is an argument that the Electruks should be T H LEWIS ELECTRUK RIDER PRAMS and possibly the Ross coukd be Helics !

jcb UK

2024-08-27 10:14

Think we have concluded this is an Electruk Rider.

rjluna2 US

2024-08-28 21:33

What about the DVLA listed here :??:

jcb UK

2024-08-29 11:33

We already have 16 Electruks so better to stick with this IMHO.

Interesting that someone applied for a logbook in 2010 I wonder if it is still around ?

I also wonder if these random log book applications ( seen quite a few on imcdb) were dodgy people who wanted the registration no. for another vehicle :??:


-- Last edit: 2024-08-29 11:35:42

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