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1986 Rolls-Royce Silver Spirit

1986 Rolls-Royce Silver Spirit in Martha - Meet Frank, Daniel and Laurence, Movie, 1998 IMDB

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: UK

1986 Rolls-Royce Silver Spirit

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johnfromstaffs EN

2022-11-18 09:57

And long may it remain unknown!

-- Last edit: 2022-11-18 10:04:57

AleX_DJ AT

2022-11-18 13:35

Registration HIL5895
Make Rolls Royce
Model Not Available
Year 1981
Colour White
Registered 09 Jul 2012
Engine 6750 cc
Fuel Petrol

or, from https://cardotcheck.co.uk/report/free/HIL5895

Vehicle REG HIL5895
Make ROLLS ROYCE
Model ROLLS ROYCE OTH
Colour WHITE
Fuel Type PETROL
Mfg. Year 1981
Engine Capacity 4999cc
Date First Registered 23/04/1981

-- Last edit: 2022-11-18 13:37:02

dsl SX

2022-11-18 15:39

Same capture seen on reelstreets but I don't think they have any other glimpses.

No clue found on other plate sites if Spirit or Spur, but the plate info is odd for engine size and a 1981 first reg does not match detail - headlight wipers removed Oct 84 and number plate set in bumper from Oct 85. As this registration apparently applied from 09 Jul 2012, it's all a bit iffy.

Suggest entering as 86 Spirit to clear it.

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-11-18 15:48

6750cc is recognisable as the last iteration of the early 1960s V-8.

4999cc means nothing to me, any ideas?

-- Last edit: 2022-11-18 16:04:24

dsl SX

2022-11-18 16:08

We had a "4999cc" SS2 the other day with some other data quirks.

zodiac SE

2022-11-18 17:20

Has the 4999cc anything to do with legislation anywhere. That is higher tax from 5000cc.

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-11-18 18:55

There is no 4999cc variant here. Why would you bother about tax on a Rolls-Royce?

Link to "en.wikipedia.org"

zodiac SE

2022-11-18 19:01

I meant that they might have charged for only 4999cc, and left the rest for free as nice gesture. Just a thought.

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-11-18 19:08

I’m sorry, you must be joking. The taxation authorities in U.K. do not make any gestures of that kind.

zodiac SE

2022-11-18 19:10

When there's life there's hope...

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-11-18 19:13

I currently pay £520 per year for my Road tax and diesel roughly £1.80 per litre. I don’t see any hope at all, the engine is 2.1 litres but its size is irrelevant as the cost is determined by the car having a list price of over £40k.

https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables

-- Last edit: 2022-11-18 19:23:01

rjluna2 US

2022-11-18 21:30

johnfromstaffs wrote I currently pay £520 per year for my Road tax and diesel roughly £1.80 per litre.

Ouch, John.

zodiac SE

2022-11-20 13:11

@John:
I believe you misunderstand me.

It's very expensive indeed to have a car today. The latest price on Diesel in Sweden (Circel K, former Statoil) is 24,72 (=£1,95) (Diesel), 25,31 (=£2,00) (Diesel Plus) and 29,87 (=£2,36) (HVO 100), so it's even worse here.

I've understood that taxation of a vehicle is calculated differently depending on where it is registered. In Sweden it has historicaly been calculated on weight, but today it's much more complicated as it also depends on what kind if fuel or carbonoxide emissions there is.

My original question was if there was a breaking point at 4999cc when concerning taxation? That would explain the figure.

-- Last edit: 2022-11-20 13:14:21

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-11-20 13:22

rjluna2 wrote
Ouch, John.


Too true! Plus £350/yr insurance and then add depreciation and I could go everywhere by taxi!

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-11-20 13:30

[quote=zodiac]@John:


My original question was if there was a breaking point at 4999cc when concerning taxation? That would explain the figure.[/quote

British car taxation is fairly simple for private cars. £170 per year + £350 per year if the car costs over £40k. There are a few, insignificant add-ons, but that’s it. The first year is much dearer, but you pay when you buy the car.

When the subject heap was new, it may have been different, but Royce’s didn’t have any alternative engine, 6750 CC V8 or nothing.

-- Last edit: 2022-11-20 13:42:10

zodiac SE

2022-11-21 11:32

johnfromstaffs wrote £170 per year + £350 per year if the car costs over £40k.


I wish it would be that simple over here as well. It has to be Sweden to make something more complicated than it needs to be.

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-11-21 13:18

^ Well, it is just a little more complicated, but nothing too earth-shatteringly tortuous. There’s a plus or minus £10 somewhere, and the £350 premium disappears when the car reaches 7 yrs old. Or 6. Or something.

The view of the government at present seems to be to take their taxation from the fuel purchase, which seems fairer to me, as it’s based upon use, but don’t buy a fleet of lorries.

-- Last edit: 2022-11-21 13:36:59

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