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1938 Morris 10cwt Van [Series II]

1938 Morris 10cwt Van [Series II] in Passport to Treason, Movie, 1956

Class: Cars, Van / MPV — Model origin:

1938 Morris 10cwt Van [Series II]

Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

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johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-09-12 13:54	Morris 10cwt van. 1935-39. /vehicle_930067-Morris-10cwt-Van-1938.html -- Last edit: 2021-09-12 14:35:40
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-09-12 14:37	If you want the lorry identified try a medium.
Baube ◊ 2021-09-12 15:50	i did tried a medium .. but that t-shirt didn't fit very well and i had to switch back to XL ...
Sunbar ◊ 2021-09-13 12:43	No medium was available therefore an extra screen capture here... Cab liooks like a 1939-1948 Dodge (UK) 5 or 6 ton. /vehicle_592245-Dodge-121-1945.html
Sunbar ◊ 2021-09-14 12:23	1938 without the rear spats. In an earlier life it looks like it had a rectangular frame or metal plate attached to the side, but not I think, as either a newspaper delivery van or GPO van.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-09-14 12:27	Sunbar wrote 1938 without the rear spats. Or, perhaps they just dropped off.
Sunbar ◊ 2021-09-14 19:01	1935 as the wheelarch does not match the later (without spats) profile and size. The wheelarch has too much clearance and it looks if someone has attacked it with a hammer to create a slight flange. Wires versus the introduction of easy clean pressed steel wheels remains a problem for me, however.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-09-14 19:17	A bit of a facer, isn’t it? I wonder if the wheel arches wouldn’t be easier to modify than swapping the wheels. My recollection of thirties cars/vans with wires is that it wasn’t just a case of swapping old wheels for newer, the pitch circle diameter and spacing of the studs wouldn’t necessarily match.
johnfromstaffs ◊ 2021-09-14 19:27	https://www.gracesguide.co.uk/File:Im193905MO-Morr.jpg The write-up says ‘39, on wires.
Sunbar ◊ 2021-09-15 21:36	August 1935 van introduction had wires and full covers on rear wheels. Spats is probably not the best description as the body sides are flush with no raised wheel arches. Wire wheels continued certainly until (edit:) April 1938 and possibly up until July 1938 when pressed steel wheels were used. Between those dates tha van was shown in adverts with the wheels obscured. The full covers on rear wheels were in use in March 1939. The introduction date of the open wheel arches is more of a problem and currently not found. The open wheel arches were bolt-on in the same way as the full covers. All Morris adverts refer to 'Series II' and there is no reference to a factory pick-up truck. Although a comment here includes "In 1938 Morris Motors introduced a truck version" now confirmed as July 1938 Morris publicity material from 1938. -- Last edit: 2021-09-21 13:42:37
Sunbar ◊ 2021-09-16 11:35	Further on the bolt-on full sized wheel spats. Judging from their initial use on the Series Y van, they possibly were only retro-fitted later from the Series Y parts? 1940 Morris Series Y 10cwt Van Sunbar wrote Introduced in February 1940. Interesting that the initial design carried-over the bolt-on full sized wheel spats at the rear without any wheel-arches in the body. However how long these lasted in wartime production is uncertain? "It will be seen from some of the accompanying pictures that... those at the rear are paddle-boxed. The nuts securing these covers, incidentally, are the same size as the wheel nuts. -- Last edit: 2021-09-16 11:37:27

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