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1938 Morris Ten Estate 'Woodie' conversion [M]

1938 Morris Ten Estate [M] in Rover Makes Good, Short Movie, 1952 IMDB

Class: Cars, Wagon — Model origin: UK

1938 Morris Ten Estate 'Woodie' conversion [M]

Position 00:00:25 [*][*][*] Vehicle used by a character or in a car chase

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dsl SX

2020-05-23 04:23

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CGB 403 = Glasgow, Oct-Nov 38. I'm guessing a home-made woodie conversion on a smallish saloon or van. Looks simple but well-made, no rear seats and flat floor, flimsy split tailgate which looks floppy and doesn't shut together solidly.

johnfromstaffs EN

2020-05-23 08:29

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The basis of the vehicle seems to be the Morris Ten Series M.

This is odd because the saloon was of semi-unitary construction and this would have made such a modification difficult. There was, however, a Tilly based on the Ten M, and this may be a demobbed Tilly plus some nifty woodwork.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/andreboeni/42137815595

The bonnet and grille are civilian rather than military. The other odd thing is the 1938 plate, why would a Tilly have been demobbed before the war? I think that rear window came from an Austin A30.

Thumb 10, a pre war Austin sits in the background, mid 30s prior to the craze for split D back windows so ‘36 at the very latest.

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dsl SX

2020-05-23 14:36

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My hunch is a saloon conversion, rather than a Tilly, even if a difficult task. Clues for me are proper door card with pocket and winding windows (thumb 5) and what looks like remnant saloony bodywork underneath the wood (thumbs 6/7), plus as noted the civilian brightwork. So plate date should be OK. If A30 rear window, film date probably means a brand new one used rather than a scrappie find as A30 launch was Oct 51, which (a) probably means the conversion itself is new and (b) reinforces the idea that it's been carefully made and not just a slapdash bodge of convenient bits.

johnfromstaffs EN

2020-05-23 14:43

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I think you may be right, the structure was still pretty unadventurous, and would probably have stood up to the back being hacked out without collapsing into a heap of ust. “D” or “R” herewith for use as appropriate. I wonder also if the conversion would have encompassed a bonnet/grille change. I can’t think up another piece of glass that shape, maybe the rather shoddy looking rear doors were added later than the main conversion, those hinges look a bit farmyard.

My Morris book shows a fairly substantial base upon which the semi-monocoque was built.

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johnfromstaffs EN

2020-05-26 17:11

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Before I receive complaints about infringement of copyright, this picture is taken from “The Motor Manual” 31st edition, 4th Impression, Temple Press 1943.

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Sunbar UK

2020-05-28 14:24

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With no rear seats or rear doors, it should have been possible to make a simple frame to support the flat load-bed that would also tie the rear wheel arches to a low cross-rail behind the front seats perhaps. The area behind the B pillar looks to be the weakest point but if the frame extended upwards behind the B pillar so much the better. As said, except for the tailgate, it looks well made so more thought might have been made to add strength.

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