Advertising Last completed movie pages 1913 Thames 48 hp Thrupp & Maberly 15-seat busClass: Bus, Single-deck — Model origin: 
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◊ 2014-04-04 19:07 |
http://www.coachbuild.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=51883 1897 is too early a date for this thing, I am confused by the detail differences in the link. |
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◊ 2014-04-04 21:36 |
It's weird: when you click for the previous picture of the gallery, the plate of the (slightly) different bus says O(or P?)M215, suggesting it was registered almost at the same time that the XM215 bus of the documentary: the Coachbuilder Encyclopedia talks about a fleet of bus... But in the picture you linked to (the plate is on the roof), and in the following one (of the rear), the plates declare XM215, the same as "our" bus. As the CE says it is the sole survivor, what is the O(or P?)M215 one they show beside?  About the XM215 bus: were the plates given for only one vehicle, or for the drivers/owners, at that time? Or could it be the same bus, but with a later body in the documentary, and rebuilt to origins later again for the museum? Previous O(or P?)M215 bus // current and next XM215 bus (Click...) -- Last edit: 2014-04-04 22:02:47 |
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◊ 2014-04-04 21:49 |
Read in the CE page: (link updated) "The coachwork, built by Thrupp & Maberly, accommodates nine persons inside and another sixteen on the roof." => 1913 Thames Thrupp & Maberly 25-seat bus, if it's this one indeed. There is a short Dutch page about this bus. Does it gives any other details about it? -- Last edit: 2020-08-02 15:35:46 (Sunbar) |
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◊ 2014-04-04 23:22 |
Checking the registration number allocation dates for London County Council, the XM (1 to 9999) series did not commence until September 1922, so the number plate does not match the 1913 date. British registration numbers are allocated to the vehicle, and normally stay with it until it is scrapped, but can be moved from vehicle to vehicle. The 1897 date is completely out of it. I recall seeing this many years ago in England in a museum. http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/Thames_Ironworks_and_Shipbuilding_Co This says that production started in 1910, and that there was an exhibit in the National Motor Museum so I must have seen it at Beaulieu. -- Last edit: 2014-04-05 15:16:47 |
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◊ 2020-08-02 15:53 |
The Thames Ironworks, Shipbuilding and Engineering started developing buses from 1906 to 1908 after which they were able to operate them under contract to various local town corporations (mostly seaside locations).![[Image: 1910thamesbus.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/558/1910thamesbus.jpg) 1910 Thames 40hp 4 cylinder bus (with side-screens). Link to "archive.commercialmotor.com" In 1911 they started a new subsidiary company Motor Coaches Ltd. mainly for the operation of vehicles but also be responsible for the marketing of the buses. ![[Image: thamesironworksbus.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/558/thamesironworksbus.jpg) "The latest departure in connection with public-service road transport, for which this company is responsible, is probably that in which a number of motor vehicles, modelled closely on the lines of the old road coaches, will be employed. We understand that in the near future a small fleet. of these will be available in and around London for the conveyance of pleasure parties over a zone extending 100 miles in all directions from the centre of the metropolis." So built as part of a fleet of 'retro' London sightseeing buses. http://archive.commercialmotor.com/article/22nd-june-1911/8/motorbus-world https://www.alamy.com/1913-thames-coach-image329500606.html -- Last edit: 2020-08-03 17:35:53 |
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