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◊ 2010-04-01 21:49 |
Zastava 125pz in YU...? |
◊ 2010-04-01 22:20 |
And I also think so.Fiat don't let to sold Fiat licenced cars in countries where are produced cars at licence of italian Fiat(Par exemple aren't any Polski Fiat's in Soviet Union).So FSO and Zastava cooperated for enrich and enlarge range.FSO send CKD Polski Fiat 125P for Zastava and from Yugoslavia are send Zastava 1100P(P=polska=Polish). -- Last edit: 2010-04-01 22:34:11 |
◊ 2010-04-02 16:52 |
I'm sure that 125 carried "Polski" badge more often than "Zastava" badge - 90% of all 125's I saw in Serbia were called "Polski Fiat 125p" rather than "Zastava 125 PZ". I think that badge "Zastava" was given to the first models, that had vertical tail lights. While talking about prefix "Polski" - my neighbour had 126 approx. 10 years ago, and it was called "Polski Fiat 126", and had that badge next to the front left light. ![]() ![]() |
◊ 2010-04-02 19:01 |
I think,that before 1983,when Fiat prohibit use the name Fiat for products of FSO,all of 125P for Yugoslavia was named Zastava.After 1983,when Polski Fiat 125p was renamed to FSO 125p or FSO 1300/1500,can be sold as FSO.Zastava bage at front has,I think,only 125pz to 1975/76( http://zastava.rajce.idnes.cz/Zastava_125PZ_-_jugoslavsky_Polak/#05.jpg ),when was introduced facelifted Polski Fiat 125p( http://shrani.si/files/zastava125vneq.jpg - zastava,but with front badge "Polski Fiat",and badge "Licencja Fiat" at right front fender) ,but can remained badge "125pz" at back,and also hubcaps with "Z".Not all facelifted zastava's 125pz have headrests ( http://img228.imageshack.us/i/dsc00629tw2.jpg/?a=V&ci=0&rt=1 )-Polski Fiat after 1975-always.Zastava 125pz was produced since 1970 to 1983.Facelifted Polski Fiat to april 1983 haven't indicators at front fenders,like this. -- Last edit: 2010-04-02 19:06:16 |
◊ 2010-04-02 19:02 |
The point is not only what was the badge, but what was the commercial name. I have to admit, that sources from former Yugoslavia are very not consistent in this case. "Avto Magazin" once describes the car (the post 1974 model) as PF 125p other time, when PF badges are clearly visible, as Zastava. Badges were still Polish, but by Zastava the car was called Zastava: picture, its source Zastva is not consistent as well BTW, judging by the model name on this pic, or they skipped Z after the facelift - we can skip it as well. Edit. Wicio after 1983 the cooperation betweeen FSO and Crvena zastava wasn't continued. Edit 2. Don Sergio not official materials, but as you see, as Zastava they are also known among some people Link to "www.oldschoolhr.com" -- Last edit: 2018-10-05 20:43:55 |
◊ 2010-04-02 19:06 |
Yes,I think so. |
◊ 2010-04-02 19:15 |
They perhaps care about it less since 1975. To this year they had front, rear and inside Zastava badges, later they perhaps were called Zastava only in brochures. Interesting under what name were registered. Anyway still should be listed as Zastava to me - it is the official name. -- Last edit: 2010-04-02 19:16:25 |
◊ 2010-04-02 19:23 |
![]() I would be very pleased, if someone could organize these two original issues for me ![]() http://www.avto-magazin.si/avtomobilski-testi/?n=10624 http://www.avto-magazin.si/avtomobilski-testi/?n=10249 Sure I'll pay for them. Swapping is possible, too. |
◊ 2010-04-02 19:28 |
I didn't show you this before? Sorry I don't know how it happend. ![]() -- Last edit: 2010-04-02 19:29:02 |
◊ 2010-04-02 19:33 |
A czy coś komuś wiadomo na temat sprzedaży poloneza przez zastavę? |
◊ 2010-04-02 19:35 |
Tak. Tzn. był napewno tam sprzedawany. http://www.avto-magazin.si/avtomobilski-testi/?n=9020 Wieść gminna niesie, że nawet jakoś go montowano, ale to raczej bujdy. -- Last edit: 2010-04-02 19:36:03 |
◊ 2010-04-02 19:47 |
Dzięki.Czyli pewnie podobnie jak 125 szedł jako całość,w najlepszym przypadku CKD.Nawiasem mówiąc,ciekawe zdjęcia-pierwszy typ kierownicy,jeszcze z Włoskich fiatów i ten co tyłem stoi z otwartą klapą jeszcze też przez Włochów zrobiony,na felgach od Fiata 131 i wydechem starego typu. |
◊ 2010-04-02 19:53 |
Gdzieś są w sieci zdjęcia tego "od tyłu" w kolorze. On był w rzczywistości zielony i miał małe zderzaki. Mam je zapisane, muszę poszukać. -- Last edit: 2010-04-02 20:41:55 |
◊ 2010-04-03 17:16 |
Znalazłem na serbskim forum Zastavy takie oto zdjęcie-dowód rejestracyjny Poloneza,ale nie FSO,tylko Zastavy http://img190.imageshack.us/i/pa210010.jpg/ |
◊ 2010-04-03 22:00 |
Bomba!!! ![]() ![]() DonSergio - see the posted above link of Wicio - Polonez registered in YU as "Zastava Polonez". xD Have you seen/known this before? |