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1965 Pontiac Bonneville Two Door Sport Coupe [26237]

1965 Pontiac Bonneville [26237] in The Saint, TV Series, 1962-1969 IMDB Ep. 6.14

Class: Cars, Coupé — Model origin: US — Built in: CA — Made for: GB

1965 Pontiac Bonneville Two Door Sport Coupe [26237]

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene 

Comments about this vehicle

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bent8rover UK

2007-06-19 17:29

1965 Bonneville

samyuk CA

2007-06-19 17:32

pontiac parisienne,

if it is right hand drive it would have been a Canadian made Pontiac, I cannot read the script on the left of the front.

bent8rover UK

2007-06-19 17:38

I wondered too, but zooming in it looks a fuller character like a B instead of a P. You can see the steering wheel is on the left, man with hat.

bent8rover UK

2007-06-19 18:03

...most likely filed in France judging by Police car colours.

Gag Halfrunt UK

2007-06-19 18:54

The Saint hardly ever went on location to foreign countries. This was almost certainly filmed in the UK with cars painted in French police colours for the episode.

The same episode has a Peugeot 404 with a French number plate driving past a very English-looking house.
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-- Last edit: 2007-06-19 18:54:44

nzcarnerd NZ

2007-06-19 21:21

At first glance I would agree with Bonneville. All models other than the Bonneville both Canadian Laurentians and US Catalinas had the letters PONTIAC on the front of the hood(bonnet). Unless of course it is a PARISIENNE! It is hard to tell from this angle if it is a sedan or a hardtop. If it is a sedan it cannot be a Bonneville as it the only four door model was a hardtop (I own one of these). I am not sure if there was a Parisienne sedan. Do we have any more clips available from this scene?? One way of telling a US car from a Canadian car is the placing of the front bumper bolts but this pic is not clear enough for that.

DAF555 SE

2007-06-20 23:16

I made two more caps of it, by the door it seems to be a two door hardtop.

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Sunbar UK

2007-06-21 17:06

At the time (1965-70) all Pontiacs imported into the UK were from GM-Canada and were left hand drive. Minimal modifications were carried out to make them UK legal (headlights and amber turn signals). They cost about three times the North American prices so few were sold.

The total number of imported GM-models were limited and only a few Pontiacs were available, probably no more than three. I do remember the Parisienne being one of them.

firebird86 US

2007-06-21 23:47

Do we have a decision?

samyuk CA

2007-06-22 06:37

The only Pontiac listed in the UK in 1965, according to an old Autocar magazine that I found, was the Parisenne and the Parisenne convertible. It costed with purchase tax, 2,225 Pounds. A Jaguar Mk X 4.2 costed 2,200 Pounds. In 1966 and 1967, the Tempest was also offered in the UK.

This looks like a 4 door hardtop because the door seems a bit short for coupe.

So a Pontiac Parisenne 4 door hardtop.


-- Last edit: 2007-06-22 06:38:20

bent8rover UK

2007-06-22 10:14

Ok let's go with that. Good work :)

philr CA

2007-07-11 01:33

Well, it looks like a Bonneville. It's LHD (the steering is visible) and LHD Parisiennes had different Chevy style wipers. This one has depress park wipers like the ones found on most US Pontiacs (they were a popular option on the Catalina and I think they were standard on other full size US Pontiac models). RHD Parisiennes got wipers like the US models but this one isn't RHD anyway!


Here's a RHD Parisienne. These cars had 1965 Chevrolet dashes (even the 1968 RHD Pontiacs still had 1965 Chevrolet dashes).
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/643530

The lettering on the hood shows 10 characters. It could be both Bonneville or Parisienne but the regular Parisienne didn't have lettering on it's hood...
The regular Parisienne showed "PONTIAC" in the lower part of it's grille (/vehicle_75305-Pontiac-Parisienne-1965.html) while the Parisienne Custom Sport (the model with a Grand-Prix style grille) had "PONTIAC" written on it's hood (http://www3.sympatico.ca/cw.classics/27-09-05/65pontica.jpg).

philr CA

2007-10-16 04:55

It's a 2 door hardtop (it's currently listed as a 4 door hardtop)

rjluna2 US

2008-05-29 03:07

Sunbar wrote At the time (1965-70) all Pontiacs imported into the UK were from GM-Canada and were left hand drive. Minimal modifications were carried out to make them UK legal (headlights and amber turn signals). They cost about three times the North American prices so few were sold.

The total number of imported GM-models were limited and only a few Pontiacs were available, probably no more than three. I do remember the Parisienne being one of them.

Not all GM vehicles were imported from Canada, there are quite few USA vehicles were exported to UK directly with more options than Canadian counterpart. There may be buyers at UK are willing to pay more to acquire the model that is usually found in USA market they want.

SixtiesSwing US

2018-05-14 02:07

Just following up (10 years later!!!!) on rjluna's comment. It is not surprising this is a 1965 Bonneville hardtop coupe if you know how the cars for this television show were sourced. The is a book entitled in the US "The Saint: Behind the Scenes with Simon Templar" by Paul Simper (UK title is "The Saint - From Big Screen to Small Screen and Back Again") that interviews most of the principles behind the program (including the late, great Sir Roger Moore.) The interview with Production Manager Johnny Goodman explains that cars for the show were frequently sourced from RAF Ruislip where the US Third Air Force was located during the 1950's and 1960's. Ruislip is in relative close proximity to Elstree where the show was filmed.

Although Goodman doesn't go into detail, I imagine that cars, particularly American models uncommon on UK roads, were borrowed from serviceman for use in various scenes. In many of the early episodes, one American model might reappear in another episode within that series (or 'season', the American term). A 1960 Cadillac 62 appears in a couple of 1962 episodes, as does a 1961 Impala, etc. The 1960 Bonneville convertible that is a plot device in "The Romantic Matron" is also used in "The Sporting Chance". It'd more likely be a Parisienne as that episode was set in Canada, although a Bonneville could be had by the Canadian customer . . . like everything else, for a price.

Two interesting observations I noticed that support the Ruislip connect are the 1965 episode "The Happy Suicide" set in New York and Long Island. Jane Merrow's character Lois Norroy has a Plymouth Valiant with a "USA" oval "country of origin" badge on the rear. That is likely to have been a US-registered car brought to Europe.

The other observation I made is Simon Templar's white 1962 Chrysler New Yorker in "Judith", set in Montreal. When Simon gets out of the car on the rural road outside the Northwade estate, one can see the Air Force tag registration on the driver's side top of the front bumper, so again, the source of the actual car suggests RAF Ruislip.

SixtiesSwing US

2022-05-03 03:33

This Bonneville needs to be revised at least as "Built in USA" as the Bonneville was only built in the US at that the time with the Canadian full-sized Pontiacs being Chevrolet equivalents with Pontiac sheet metal. And we have agreed it is a Bonneville as the lettering can be seen on the driver's side of the hood. Yes, it could be UK market as it was available in England new through the GM importer / London dealership Lendrum and Hartman, but it could also have originally been brought over under other circumstances by an ex-pat original American owner (diplomat, military, corporate, etc.). Regardless, cool car!!! Love the '65!!!!

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