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Overhaul, Documentary, 1957 IMDB

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dsl SX

2022-11-10 22:30

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Another 17 minute film (an odd length, but seems a standard duration for many LT promo films as if it was standard policy), taken from BFI DVD set - British Transport Films Volume Ten: London on the Move
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and the final film from this collection.

Basically a massive plug for the Aldenham works where LT totally renovate their bus fleet every 3½ - 4 years, but it's an impressive factory. Source for many other BTF/BFi films, and I guess many of our bus fans will find it fascinating - can be seen on yt here.

Several interesting snippets in the commentary:
- the main factor determining the 3½-4 year cycle of these overhauls is not mechanical but the need to repaint/renew bodywork to prevent corrosion, but when reconditioning the bodywork, it makes sense to overhaul the oily bits at the same time
- some hints how much LT's design spec for bus models and bodywork producers specifies that proposals are designed to be compatible with this refurb process for ease of dissembly and reassembly
- also this designed-in interchangeability means that no great emphasis is put on reuniting any individual chassis with the same body it had when it went in (or vice versa). One scene even implies that number plate retention may not be totally rigid. All of which left me wondering how much reliance can safely be put on all the detailed bus lists online (eg BLotW, Ian's Bus Stop, etc) which admirably pursue all the recorded identities into coherent and easy-to-follow narratives, but in this recurring woodman's axe style process, how much of the IDs are real and which elements (registration, chassis or body??) actually provide the continuation??

Rejects, mainly because I couldn't follow whether a specific bus was always used:

- green ones
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KGK 522 was a Leyland Titan PD2 (RTW22), new in July 49, sold to Stratford-on-Avon fleet in Jan 66. Can't find any suggestion it was ever a green bus - seems only a normal red one.

- red buses. I thought the first one might make a particularly sadistic pick'n'mix :whistle: ...
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- paint shop on a red day (might be HLW 179 after its brake tests
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johnfromstaffs EN

2022-11-11 08:57

The only thing that remains absolutely true and constant is the numberplate. What it is screwed to is a movable feast. Certain facts may remain though, which could be traceable. Can you turn an AEC into a Leyland or vice-versa? Maybe not. Can an RTL become an RTW? Good question. I think it is safe to assume no transmogrification of RTs into RMs. What about the low bridge RTs? Finally, and by no means exhaustively, I am sure, what changes occurred to the Guy Specials? If GS1 came out of the works sporting GS10s engine and GS5s transmission, would anyone notice, or even bother?

And I’m only addressing the (mainly) post war classes of vehicle.

johnfromstaffs EN

2022-11-11 12:24

Thumb 5.

The one in the bottom rh corner. No Roofbox.

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