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antp ◊ 2004-08-07 01:17	Les sigles Mercedes ont été rajoutés pour le faire passer pour un camion allemand. -- Last edit: 2007-01-01 23:20:51
Ralph ◊ 2004-11-14 22:27	Mercedes-Benz Lo2750, 2,75-ton, 1933-1936, 4-cyl Diesel 65hp This is not a US 'GMC CCKW 353'
antp ◊ 2004-11-14 23:40	As I said in French, it is not a real Mercedes truck. The Mercedes symbol has been added on this GMC truck to make it look like a Mercedes one.
le camionneur ◊ 2005-04-29 22:27	c'est un mercedes et non un gmc
antp ◊ 2005-04-30 00:30	Pourtant d'après pas mal de sources ça serait un GMC modifié pour ressembler à un Mercedes...
antp ◊ 2005-04-30 00:32	D'ailleurs comparé à la photo le rapport largeur/hauteur de la calandre semble différent, et le sigle n'a pas le même aspect non plus.
carfan ◊ 2005-08-24 00:26	HELLO!! this is a mercedes! not a gmc the truck has a mercedes star hood ornament and the star is on the radiator
antp ◊ 2005-08-24 10:11	As explained above, this truck is a GMC one with an added Mercedes sign. I am not sure that the info is correct, but it is listed on the trivia page of IMDB, and on some other site that seem to be serious.
carfan ◊ 2005-09-11 16:41	Every one look in the imcdb forum and look for any thing about this raiders of the lost ark truck
carfan ◊ 2006-01-24 02:20	i heard on a website that this truck is a Mercedes Wehrmacht troop truck
Aviator ◊ 2006-04-10 13:16	I´m quite sure it´s a Mercedes-Benz LG63 (LG3000). http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Bullitt1979/Indy/1876a_222.jpg http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Bullitt1979/Indy/1759_156.jpg http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Bullitt1979/Indy/TRUCK.jpg -- Last edit: 2006-04-10 13:43:05
antp ◊ 2006-04-10 13:42	We can list it as Mercedes, I do not care, but as "official" sources say it is a replica build on a GMC I thought it was better to list it as GMC. And your first two pictures show a much different truck, for sure the truck used in the movie is not the same than that one. The third picture seem similar, I guess it is that model. But again, it could be a replica...
Junkman ◊ 2006-04-10 14:57	It is a made for movie replica of the Mercedes LG3000, most likely on a GMC chassis. First of all, this is a 6x6, see the front axle, whereas the real Mercedes was a 4x2. Note also all the other significant differences between a real Mercedes and this thing. Furthermore, the movie makers officially revealed that it was a replica. Also, real Mercedes trucks of this vintage are so rare, that I seriously doubt anybody would lend his example for that kind of scene being filmed.
Aviator ◊ 2006-04-10 17:13	The third pic shows the truck in Disneyland. It is said to be the screen used one.
antp ◊ 2006-04-10 18:15	That explains why the third pic is so similar, so it does not prove that it is a real Mercedes truck
Aviator ◊ 2006-04-10 20:06	Yes. I think it is really a replica. In this screenshot you can see a shock absorber of the truck(if they used the same truck for this scene). And Mercedes trucks didn´t have shock absorbers till 1954. http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a66/Bullitt1979/Indy/pdvd_374.jpg
Delta Fox ◊ 2006-08-24 19:21	Dude, that's a Mercedes, NOT a GMC.
antp ◊ 2006-08-24 21:08	Read the previous messages. It is a GMC with a fake Mercedes-Benz hood and cab.
Delta Fox ◊ 2006-09-11 22:27	Sorry dude, but there are previous messages saying that it's a Mercedes.
antp ◊ 2006-09-11 22:42	"It is a Ford Pinto" now there is a message saying that's a Ford Pinto, it does not mean that it is true.
Alexander ◊ 2006-09-11 22:58	Sure it's not a Pinto???
DIEHARD ◊ 2006-09-11 23:07	I think it is a Peugeot 505 Break... The GMC chassis and the Mercedes stars are just thing that are meant that way, to set us on the wrong track identifying it....and if it is not a 505 it is obviously not a Talbot Horizon but a Renault Supercinq!
Delta Fox ◊ 2006-09-12 19:37	Actually, I now believe it's a Bedford Chevy
antp ◊ 2007-10-04 15:11	You need to - get a sense of humour - read messages above
truck man ◊ 2007-11-12 02:38	antp, how the hell do you know this truck is a replica mercedes-benz LG3000 built on a GMC chassis? And I wonder how I can get a sense of humour better then what I got... Since I'm one of the few members that likes to joke around with others... -- Last edit: 2010-06-23 06:02:51
chris40 ◊ 2007-11-12 09:50	I don't know how Antoine knew, but I guessed it was a CCKW as soon as I got a look at the front wheels. It's like putting a Rolls-Royce grille on a VW Beetle: doesn't make it a Rolls-Royce, does it?
truck man ◊ 2007-11-12 16:49	No,it makes it a mercedes-benz,Mr. Sherlock Holmes.
G-MANN ◊ 2007-11-12 18:18	Can you prove that? -- Last edit: 2007-11-12 18:23:45
G-MANN ◊ 2007-11-12 18:29	To all those who think this is a Mercedes, think about it, this is a Hollywood film, they needed a truck and a car (the Mercedes replica also listed for this film) for a big chase. It would have more difficult to get hold of original WWII German vehicles in good, reliable condition to put through their paces for this action scene. So since this film was made by an American studio, they probably found it easier to get an old U.S. Army truck (those things are probably built to last and have been maintained over the years) and make it look more like a German Army Mercedes truck. I can't say for sure exactly what this is, but it does look doubtful that this is a real Merc so I believe what antp says. -- Last edit: 2007-11-12 18:32:01
Ingo ◊ 2007-11-12 18:47	In my opinion it's not a real Mercedes, too. The size of the windows (front and side) is strange, I think too big. And this type of front-screen looks not Mercedes-like (resp. typical for the simplified German trucks, produced during the war). And the grille seem to wide, compared with the rest of the body. I just have checked the original photos of my wife's grandfather from the war 1940 in France, because he took photos of all vehicles they had (and which were destroyed, too). Unfortunately they mostly had Opel Blitz, some Citroen and one truck, which I cannot identify. Or let's make the easiest way: the next one of the forum-members, who visits Disneyland, checks the truck there. When the "original fake" is still exististing, like here, it's not a big thing. -- Last edit: 2007-11-12 18:48:16
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2007-11-12 19:09	G-MANN wrote To all those who think this is a Mercedes, think about it, this is a Hollywood film, they needed a truck and a car (the Mercedes replica also listed for this film) for a big chase. It would have more difficult to get hold of original WWII German vehicles in good, reliable condition to put through their paces for this action scene. So since this film was made by an American studio, they probably found it easier to get an old U.S. Army truck (those things are probably built to last and have been maintained over the years) and make it look more like a German Army Mercedes truck. Yes, except that the Raiders production was based at Elstree studios in the UK. It would make sense to source the truck and customise it in the UK (the desert scenes were filmed in Tunisia) instead of shipping one over from the US. Anyway, I can't believe that people are still arguing about whether this is a real Mercedes. -- Last edit: 2007-11-12 20:40:48
chris40 ◊ 2007-11-12 20:35	Nor can I. For what it's worth, there are still to this day a good few CCKWs in Europe; even in the UK you rarely see a WW2 reenactment (e.g. the Severn Valley Railway's 1940s weekends) without at least one. Here's a picture of an ongoing restoration which might help to convince the sceptics ... http://commemo.rangers.free.fr/refection/photo-353/GMC%20PASCAL%201.jpg ... although I doubt it!
truck man ◊ 2007-11-12 20:49	No,I cant prove it,and I'm sorry,plus I'm starting to agree that this truck is a replica mercedes-benz built on a GMC chassis and heres why,because back in 1980 and still today,the real mercedes-benz LG3000 would be extremly rare to find,showroom condition or not,and I prety much doubt there's still a lot of these trucks left in the world.
Neptune ◊ 2007-11-12 20:57	truck man wrote No,it makes it a mercedes-benz,Mr. Sherlock Holmes. /vehicle.php?id=5613 ... See the 28th or 29th comment down ... -- Last edit: 2007-11-12 20:59:25
chris40 ◊ 2007-11-12 21:26	Imitation, they say, is the sincerest form of flattery ... -- Last edit: 2007-11-12 21:26:46
Neptune ◊ 2007-11-12 21:32	God I hope not ...
truck man ◊ 2007-11-12 23:15	Boys,its was just a joke,neptune,sorry for copying your joke,I just couldn't resist,and by the way,I now agree that this truck is a replica mercedes-benz LG3000 built on a GMC chassis.
Ingo ◊ 2007-11-13 18:21	chris40 wrote Imitation, they say, is the sincerest form of flattery ... Ooops, I read on the first view "flatulence" My fault
Kooshmeister ◊ 2008-04-17 15:31
Q-Ball ◊ 2008-08-29 17:46	I believe that its a GMC. anyone can re-badge an old US army truck and say its german
reo24 ◊ 2008-12-17 13:39	Hi everyone, Spotted this site while looking for something else & I can actually help! The truck IS a GMC. A friend of mine bought it from a museum, I taught Nicolas Lyndhurst to drive it in a made for TV film called Stalag Luft, after which it went to the States to one of the movie theme parks. There was a lot of plywood in the cab!
Kooshmeister ◊ 2009-01-16 21:07	Q-Ball wrote I believe that its a GMC. anyone can re-badge an old US army truck and say its german They did more than re-badge it. They stripped it down and built a replica of a WWII Mercedes over it. Only flaws are it's too tall and too narrow to be a real LG3000. (Hope I'm getting the meaning of the term "re-badge" correctly; I'm assuming it means to just slap a different emblem on a vehicle without making any other significant changes, which is not the case with this thing.) -- Last edit: 2009-01-16 21:08:30
Kooshmeister ◊ 2009-04-14 03:57	Toy version:
antp ◊ 2009-04-14 19:46	Lego version:
Kooshmeister ◊ 2009-04-22 17:35	Heh, I have that Lego set. Plus the Hasbro toys of both this and the Mercedes G5.
PeteP ◊ 2009-08-12 15:12	It was a rebuilt GMC, a well known UK military vehicle collector bought it when the Lamanva company closed down (Lamanva used to supply military vehciles for films). He displayed it at the War and Peace show in Kent about ten or fifteen years ago before selling it on to Disney. The cab was all made of plywood the wheels were the origonals with most of the holes welded up and it ran like a total dog.
Trainboy12 ◊ 2009-12-16 18:54	This is my moast favorite vehicle from the movie(apart from the Flying Wing).
Trainboy12 ◊ 2009-12-16 18:57	Kooshmeister wrote Heh, I have that Lego set. So do I.
racersg ◊ 2012-06-21 00:54	Alexander wrote Sure it's not a Pinto??? Hmm, it's pretty hard to tell.
maxman ◊ 2012-07-22 06:19	Has anyone been able to find Afrikakorps markings on the trucks?
Ingo ◊ 2012-07-22 11:56	If there were some, it would be annother anachronism, as in 1936, when this movie was set, there was no Afrikakops already existing.
maxman ◊ 2013-05-09 05:21	Why is it Made for Movie? It's been identified as a GMC CCKW modified to look like an LG30000. Kooshmeister wrote They did more than re-badge it. They stripped it down and built a replica of a WWII Mercedes over it. Only flaws are it's too tall and too narrow to be a real LG3000. That's not the only flaw. LG3000s were not 6x6. They did not have a powered front axle. -- Last edit: 2013-05-09 05:23:23
Lateef ◊ 2013-06-04 18:02
Kooshmeister ◊ 2014-07-30 07:28	maxman wrote That's not the only flaw. LG3000s were not 6x6. They did not have a powered front axle. I for one like these replicas, and prefer them to things like an anachronistic Opel Blitz and Kübelwagen (as was suggested on the G5's page), or, worse, a lazy feldgrau GMC truck and Dodge command car with no modifications. -- Last edit: 2014-07-30 08:25:39
LencoBearcatGuy ◊ 2014-08-04 01:17	This truck now sits in Disneyland, California. And is it a poor sight. -- Last edit: 2014-08-04 01:18:03
F355 ◊ 2016-06-29 02:40	GMC CCKW
dogman15 ◊ 2017-06-25 22:47	Picture of this truck at Disneyland: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Disneyindytruck1.jpg
2491tj ◊ 2021-02-21 13:26	update, as of august 2020, theres at least one of the four replica mercedes trucks languishing in the uk in a much delapidated condition.it can be seen part way through a youtube video called military machinery grave yard uk by the youtuber UrbanExplorersUK -- Last edit: 2021-02-21 13:28:52
Car Mechanic ◊ 2021-08-08 22:53	The truck is definitely not a Mercedes Benz truck because no german truck in ww2 had a tandem axle (twin rear axle). The truck in the movie is based on a GMC CCKW or a Studebaker military truck. See list of german Wehrmacht trucks , only the Mercedes Benz L 10000 had a tandem axle , but this was a afr more heavy truck.http://www.kfzderwehrmacht.de/Hauptseite_deutsch/Kraftfahrzeuge/Pkw-_Lkw_-_Omnibusse/Lastkraftwagen/Lkw_Deutschland/lkw_deutschland.html
Gag Halfrunt ◊ 2021-08-09 01:23	This argument was settled years ago. It is known to be a replica and believed to be built on a GMC CCKW 353 chassis. -- Last edit: 2021-08-09 01:24:57
indomyana ◊ 2021-09-17 02:27	Link to "twitter.com" and https://twitter.com/Barnett_College/status/1274627625181483008 "The truck was built specially, based on an American GMC, a 1943 model. There’ll be a man hunging from the truck. There are the other vehicles as well: a Mercedes staff car, a Mercedes truck, a command car and a mortorcycle... " — Art Director Lesley Dilley
indomyana ◊ 2021-09-17 02:32	Note that the under-the-truck scene was filmed on a different vehicle and in California
indomyana ◊ 2021-09-17 02:49	There were 3 trucks built in total by Charlie Mann. 2 can be seen here at his Lamanva Military Vehicle Museum, Cornwall http://miliblog.co.uk/?cat=304

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