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◊ 2006-08-24 21:27 |
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◊ 2006-08-24 21:43 |
Mk.I? |
◊ 2006-08-24 21:56 |
mkII. SFPI gives a credible 1961 reg |
◊ 2006-08-24 22:17 |
I have this episode on VHS. Poor Jaguar |
◊ 2006-08-24 22:19 |
Yep, it gets really battered |
◊ 2006-08-24 23:02 |
Could this be a false reg number? This is definitely a Mk.I in my opinion with the smaller side and rear windows, however the rear-wheel suuround is open from the Mk.II, not with the spats covering the wheels suggesting they have been changed. The doors in the movie car have a full pressed-steel construction including the glass frame as the Mk.I. In contrast, the Mk.II had welded-on window frames making the glass area much larger. For me this is Mk.I. -- Last edit: 2006-08-24 23:15:27 |
◊ 2006-08-25 01:01 |
It's almost certainly a false plate, since all the foreign cities look like backlot sets. |
◊ 2006-09-01 16:18 |
This is indeed a Jaguar Mk I and it is a 3.4 litre car : the 2.4 litre MK I had rear wheel shields ( spats ) covering the whole of the rear wheel.The 3.4 litre Jag Mk I had open rear wheel surrounding with half wheel shields as on this one .It is thus not a later modification.This is also the easiest way to immediately distinguish the 2.4 litre from the 3.4 litre car in the Mk I series. |
◊ 2006-09-01 16:55 |
Thanks pilou, thats information I hadn't realised or found on the internet..... A small detail but it makes identification easy |
◊ 2007-01-07 01:01 |
The open spat is not exclusive to the 3.4 litre Mk1 - all later (post 1958) series MK1's had these, in addition to the wider grille aperture. Earlier 2.4's had open spats if they had the optional disk brakes fitted and don't forget these panels are easily changed and are also interchangable with the later Mk 2 spats which can be whipped off in about 30 seconds or so. However, I do agree with Pilou that this one is a 3.4 because if you look very closely on the boot, there's a badge denoting the engine size just under the Jaguar script and this feature is exclusive to 3.4's as the smaller engined variant does not have its engine size advertised for obvious reasons. I have an original Mk 1 that's every bit as fast as a Mk2 although it does require a bit of respect on corners... -- Last edit: 2007-01-17 22:33:50 |
◊ 2007-04-20 21:32 |
1957+ ( 3.4 Litre version ) |
◊ 2009-04-18 12:50 |
in eps 2.20 |
◊ 2024-05-05 01:33 |
Indeed its a false French plate...this scene is set in the South of France, while this same registration appears on a 1965 Pontiac Bonneville at the beginning of "The Spanish Cow" in series 4 (South of France again), a black Volkswagen in "The Art Collectors" (set in Paris), and I seem to recall on a Citroen DS 19 in one of the various episodes set in France. The filmmakers didn't anticipate 1) obsessive popularity with cult shows and 2) the advent of VHS, DVDs, streaming allowing people to rewatch frequently and pause scenes. Indeed the cars in location footage may differ in color (cream vs tan 1965 Chevrolet Bel Air in "The Angel's Eye; off-white vs yellow Citroen DS 19 in "To Kill a Saint"), but also the registration plates....I'm sure that the production company just kept a handful of stock plates for European countries to slap on cars as needed. |
◊ 2024-05-05 03:27 |
2 cars seen, both Mk1. 1st thumb is wide grille so 3.4 likely, which also fits main for boot badge. 2nd thumb is narrow grille, so 2.4, and presumably the one going over the cliff. |
◊ 2024-05-30 20:59 |
Makes sense. Since the one that meets it demise was originally filmed for the sister production, "The Baron", "The Saint" production had to locate an action car to lead up to the stock footage from "The Baron". Although hard to watch any great car get totaled like that, at least we can be certain that the one that sacrificed it life was likely well-worn and shabby by 1965. This was a rare and expensive undertaken by ITC as evidenced by the number of times the footage has been used, so they weren't going to spend money on a vehicle anywhere new and / or valuable. |
◊ 2024-05-30 21:50 |
But the truck doesn't appear in The Baron (or at least we don't have a capture of it) and the car that falls of the cliff has black number plates. The "hero" Jaguar (the car seen before the crash) in The Baron seems to be the same one with a wide grille seen here. /vehicle_72406-Jaguar-MkI-1957.html Episode 17 of The Baron was first broadcast in Janary 1967. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0519188/reference/ Episode 5.01 of The Saint was first broadcast in August 1967. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0693566/reference/ However, if we assume that the Saint episode was filmed first everything makes sense: The cliff stunt was filmed for The Saint, which is why the truck doesn't appear in The Baron. The "hero" Jaguars in both series (the ones good enough to be shown in close-up) are the same car. The car that goes off the cliff was a double used only for that stunt, and it was given the black French plates. The producers could re-use the stunt again and again because they still had the "hero" Jaguar. |