Ford V3000
Ford V3000 in Hitlers amerikanische Geschäftsfreunde, Documentary, 2011
Class: Trucks, Simple truck — Model origin: 
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Comments about this vehicle
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◊ 2012-03-06 18:36 |
V3000,I think,so model origin Germany,or rather Third Reich P.S.I don't understand,why soviet vechicles can be listed as Soviet,not Russian,with soviet flag,but Germans cars bulit in time Third Reich can't be with Third Reich flag,and adnotation. |
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◊ 2012-03-06 18:47 |
It would be historically correct, but I think in some countries the swastica is forbidden - as in Germany for example. Also "Origin: Nazi Germany" would make the cars look a bit evilish... -- Last edit: 2012-03-06 18:48:04 |
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◊ 2012-03-06 18:53 |
Bullshit. Also you can use icon when swastika is barely recognizable. |
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◊ 2012-03-06 19:05 |
I think ages ago I suggested that flag being added for Nazi Germany-era vehicles, this after we introduced the Soviet Union flag for pre-1991 Russian vehicles (before it was just the current Russian flag being used for all of them). I can kind of see why we haven't gotten around to introducing this yet... -- Last edit: 2012-03-06 20:23:30 |
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◊ 2012-03-06 20:48 |
That's a point, It's OUR history. All of us. |
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◊ 2012-03-06 22:11 |
Soviet flag would be also prohibited as Third Reich flag.I was just as evil system .gif ";)") By the way,model origin Germany -- Last edit: 2012-03-06 22:13:07 |
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◊ 2012-03-06 22:23 |
Thanks for your answer, Robi. I just decided to delete the question I asked about Germans being sensitive about the swastika because I thought it would start a discussion which I suddenly felt that I didn't really want to bother with (I felt like I was stating the obvious). -- Last edit: 2012-03-06 22:24:02 |
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◊ 2012-03-07 19:54 |
Me neither. We had this discussion several times before, but obviously noone is interested in the historic facts  It wrote not only one time, that it's historically not correct to take for all German vehicles, except from the DDR, the actual flag. The fact is, that during the nazi-times these colours were forbidden also during the emperor's time before 1918. Details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_GermanySo if the want to be really correct, we have to separate all German made or German origin vehicles in five categories, a) pre-1918, 1919-1935, 1935-1945, 1945-1949 (the C-pennant), and after 1949. Sure, historical correct, but a very difficult allocation, because many cars were produced in "different Germanies". Not to talk about the origin dates of the construction. And if we want to be really historical correct, we have to take the actual black-red-gold banner also for the 1949-1959 DDR-cars, as the DDR-flag came in 1959. We will never be able for a real perfect allocation - but the vehicles, constructed and used in the Nazi-times, should get the swastica-flag  To have at least a little bit correctness. -- Last edit: 2012-03-07 20:19:26 |
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◊ 2012-03-07 20:00 |
Not bothering, it's more a question of schizophrenia, sometimes even paranoia It's forbidden to show a swastica in the public - but it's a historical fact. And the national flag between 1935 and 1945. A definite, not discussable fact. -- Last edit: 2012-03-07 20:01:05 |
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Andre Malraux ◊ 2012-03-07 20:04 |
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◊ 2012-03-07 20:18 |
It's not only forbidden to show the swastica here, also this symbol is illegal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_German_Youth - but only in Western Germany. Still nowadays. So if her old outfit would still fit Link to "m3.paperblog.com" , she can wear it at home, but not on my side of The Wall. Here she would be fined for that. |
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Andre Malraux ◊ 2012-03-07 20:23 |
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◊ 2012-03-07 20:25 |
Take care of the correct letters' sequence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trades_Union_Congress |
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Andre Malraux ◊ 2012-03-07 20:27 |
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◊ 2012-03-11 21:11 |
Yes, that's where it becomes slightly complicated (what if a vehicle can't be narrowed down to a particular year-range, and the overall year range falls between various flags?) And Mercedes-Benz, for example, has such a long history that I don't know if antp could assign other flags (apart from the modern German flag) by default, so would people have to go through all the old Mercs and change the flag manually? Using the search comment function I looked up when I'd suggested having the Nazi flag, it was about twice back in 2006, and interestingly nobody ever gave me a real reply... -- Last edit: 2012-03-11 21:14:43 |
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◊ 2012-03-13 22:26 |
I think,that it not be must changed in one day,but partially and successively.If they were problems with surely fixing model year,i think,must be added this flag,that was in moment of production start.If range falls between various flags, for example start produced before war,and continued after,can be added both flags,i don't see problems(for exemple model origin Nazi Germany,produced in Germany,or East Germany(DDR) like IFA F8 with was original produced in Nazi Germany as DKW F8...) -- Last edit: 2012-03-13 22:38:23 |
