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1937 Lanchester Fourteen Roadrider [LA14]

1937 Lanchester Fourteen Roadrider [LA14] in Foyle's War, TV Series, 2002-2015 IMDB Ep. 6.03

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: UK

1937 Lanchester Fourteen Roadrider [LA14]

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Sunbar UK

2010-04-30 20:18

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[Image: foyle3cap164.6223.jpg]

The vehicle details for JE 3210 are:

Date of Liability 01 07 2010
Date of First Registration 27 02 1937
Year of Manufacture 1937
Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1301CC
Vehicle Colour BLUE

130rapid PL

2010-04-30 21:08

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Seems to be Lanchester 11 "Eleven", although odd cylinder capacity.

-- Last edit: 2010-04-30 21:09:06

Sunbar UK

2010-04-30 21:14

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From the same car in the 'Poirot' listing for 'JE 3210'
/vehicle_155612-Lanchester-1937.html

chris40 wrote It looks to me big enough to be a 1936+ Fourteen Road Rider:
Link to "www.dloc.org.uk"
Like you, Sunbar, I tend to disregard mycarcheck's capacity ... 1300cc would never have dragged that around in the 30s! :D


So larger than an 'Eleven' I think?

johnfromstaffs EN

2010-04-30 21:21

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We have discussed the DVLA inaccuracies in these entries before. The Lanchester 11 used the same engine as the 1936 10, which was of 1,444 cc.

If you young chaps have not encountered the RAC Horsepower before, it is a calculated figure based upon the cylinder bore of the engine and the number of cylinders and bears no resemblance to the actual power developed by the engine.

130rapid PL

2010-04-30 21:27

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Fourteen Road Rider has longer bonnet for 6-in-line engine: Link to "www.dloc.org.uk"

johnfromstaffs EN

2010-04-30 21:29

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If it's a 14, and if those are wire wheels, then the engine capacity is a 1527cc six cylinder, if they are pressed steel wheels, then the engine has increased to 1809cc.

chris40 UK

2010-04-30 21:37

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In the 'Poirot' image it seems rather clearer that JE 3210 has wire wheels.

Sunbar UK

2010-04-30 21:37

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They appear to be wire wheels... but I'm unable to say if the bonnet length is valid for a 6-cylinder engine?

Sunbar UK

2010-04-30 21:38

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Hello chris40 :) same observation :).

chris40 UK

2010-04-30 21:41

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Great minds ... :D It's quite a small six-cylinder engine; I don't see that it might not be a six.

-- Last edit: 2010-04-30 21:44:03

Sunbar UK

2010-04-30 22:02

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Or is it a Lanchester 10 Saloon 1344cc as here. (I'm not saying it is I'm just so confused trying to guess the size?)

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C139395/#

130rapid PL

2010-04-30 22:09

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Is it possible this plates belong to same owner's Lanchesters collection? And serve in different cars?

-- Last edit: 2010-04-30 22:11:01

Gag Halfrunt UK

2010-04-30 22:38

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You can't drive different cars on the same plates in the UK, but perhaps someone who owns several Lanchesters lent plates from non-running cars to use as props.

johnfromstaffs EN

2010-04-30 23:58

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I have just returned from the pub; no chaps, it is definitely not the retired colonel's transportation prayer, a Lanchester 10. That would have had a flatter radiator with a more noticeable rearward slope. There was a vogue for pint sized (pub again) six cylinder engines in the thirties, the Wolseley Hornet being the leader at 1271cc, the Triumph Scorpion, 1203cc, and the Standard Little Twelve, 1337cc being others.

minty EN

2010-06-22 15:35

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Hello All,

For your info, the Lanchester shown IS a 1937 Lanchester LA-14 'Roadrider'...

Do not confuse this with the 1938 LA14-2 'Roadrider' DeLuxe - which was a physically bigger/longer car, with a much more sloping back-end...

-- Last edit: 2010-06-22 15:37:11

Sunbar UK

2017-02-02 20:11

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Also in episode 4.02 'Bad Blood'; vehicle listing combined after identification.

[Image: badbloodep4-0200-17-195.jpg] [Image: badbloodep4-0200-17-192.jpg] [Image: badbloodep4-0200-17-193.jpg]
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johnfromstaffs wrote The pictures make life very hard, being either so tight in as to obscure any useful detail or so far away that you need a telescope.

However, that does not stop me from speculating and I think this may be a 1935 Standard 12. But could also be a Singer, or something else using that Pressed Steel Co bodywork.

http://www.simoncars.co.uk/standard/s1930.html


Sunbar wrote Lanchester Fourteen Roadrider I think, and probably Foyle's War 'JE 3210' (1937) again, also seen in Poirot.

[Image: sidebadblood.jpg]
Belt-line moulding (1) and rear glass (2) falls away at the rear.
Vents (3) in lower scuttle side panel and no louvres in bonnet side (4).

High wing line (5)

[Image: badbloodunknown2.jpg]
and high headlamp position with the radiator mounted well forward (visible in distant view).


johnfromstaffs wrote No argument from me, strange sort of "tacked on" roof though.


[Image: extras.jpg]
A 'filming of Foyle's War' shot of the same car.


-- Last edit: 2017-02-23 19:29:40

daimlere20 WL

2018-02-19 02:46

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The Lanchester 11hp (LA11) & 14hp Roadrider (LA14/1) share the same bonnet assembly!

-- Last edit: 2018-02-19 02:46:41

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