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1923 AEC NS-Type London General

1923 AEC NS-Type in Bulldog Drummond's Revenge, Movie, 1937 IMDB

Class: Bus, Double-deck — Model origin: UK

1923 AEC NS-Type London General

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Raul1983 FI

2006-04-05 14:10

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Looks like it starts "Th....."

A British make ?



BeanBandit FI

2006-04-05 15:13

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Thornycroft?

wrenchhead US

2006-04-05 21:22

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If it helps I think it says something like CNCCN TRANSIT on the side of the bus

Sunbar UK

2006-04-06 12:40

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wrenchhead wrote If it helps I think it says something like CNCCN TRANSIT on the side of the bus


Could that be "London Transport" as it's British? That also ties-in with the 'bar and circle' London Transport logo on the front.

Sunbar UK

2006-04-09 20:14

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LGOC (London General Omnibus Company) CC class in service between 1930-1939 is the closest match I can find.

Although only four were ever made of this type to try out as competition to those made by AEC.

Description.....

"Perhaps the most obvious difference was in the chassis-mounted windowless cab and the tapered Chiswick radiator (This had GENERAL cast into it)."
source... http://www.countrybus.org.uk/LT/CC.html#chiswick

Is this the same double decker bus seen behind the Hillman Hawk? I'm guessing it was all part of the same scene.

-- Last edit: 2006-04-09 20:24:20

wrenchhead US

2006-04-10 06:30

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@sunbar Its very blurry. If L runs all the way under the whole thing it just might be london transport. Here are the best images I could get from the writing on the side of the bus.
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-- Last edit: 2006-04-10 06:34:35

Alexander DE

2006-04-10 08:46

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Perfect pictures, wrenchhead. That is, as Sunbar suggests, 'London Transport'.
http://www.outlawforpeace.com/trade/store/it-badge001.jpg

Sunbar UK

2006-04-10 13:01

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"London Transport" started to appear on the sides of buses in 1933 replacing "General"

I'm becoming a little more sure now that it has "General" in the centre of the radiator logo (a red circle with blue bar was first used by General Omnibus before changed and adopted by London Underground and then London Transport).

It still seems to suggest this could be one of only a few LGOC Class CC buses made. Unfortunately photos of these buses are not easy to find.

-- Last edit: 2006-04-10 13:01:39

wrenchhead US

2006-04-10 18:00

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The camera was on Bulldog as he passed the bus (very close side views only) then drove in front of it (stronghold's pic) and the scene changed. Stronghold captured the best picture available of the bus. There were some other busses in the far background (too small and blurry to bother with) before he passed this bus but this is the only pic of this one.

-- Last edit: 2006-04-10 18:04:23

Alexander DE

2006-04-15 09:24

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Shall we call it 'LGOC CC Class' from 1930?

Sunbar UK

2006-05-03 21:18

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I'm sure I found it.

AEC NS-type bus, as confirmed by the radiator, sidelights, cab height to the windscreen and triangle visible on the front. These would have been far more common in the early 1930s than the few CC class buses made. The buses would have been original painted in the livery or the General Omnibus Company and then re-painted as London Transport buses, finally leaving service in 1939.

They were built from 1925 with an open driver's cab. The one in the movie and the following picture has the later closed cab.

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Oldsmobile1897 US

2014-08-24 08:29

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So this is a 1925+ model?

dsl SX

2014-08-24 13:05

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It is later than 1925, but we don't have a date for when the later closed cab started ^^

Sunbar UK

2014-08-24 14:15

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London Transport photographic collection suggests the earliest was about 1931 for the later closed cab. By 1933 the closed cab appears to be almost universal, however as a modification to existing vehicles so the bus date itself would be earlier and 1925 appears right for the first NS-types.

Link to "www.ltmcollection.org"

Link to "www.ltmcollection.org"

"A first attempt was made on NS198 in March 1929, with a simple glass apron screen, without much joy. A further attempt in August and September 1929 involved three NS, with a wider cab structure. These too did not prosper. But from 1931 a proper glazed cab began to be retro-fitted to the NS class - with an open doorway, of course. "

http://www.countrybus.org/NS/NS.htm

dsl SX

2014-08-24 14:22

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Sunbar wrote 1925 appears right for the first NS-types.

Or 1923 - /vehicle_667419-AEC-NS-Type-1923.html ??

Sunbar UK

2014-08-24 14:26

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Yes, keep it I guess as previously 1923 when the first NS2-4 development vehicles went into service.

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