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Made for Movie IFA P3 Based on Land-Rover 88'' Series III

Made for Movie IFA P3 in Octopussy, Movie, 1983 IMDB

Class: Cars, Off-road / SUV — Model origin: UK

Made for Movie IFA P3 Based on Land-Rover 88'' Series III

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

Comments about this vehicle

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Junkman UK

2006-01-12 22:51

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EX-GDR People's Army Sachsenring P3, 1961-66

Alexander DE

2006-01-13 00:40

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I am pretty sure that it is a fake.

Reason #1: In 1983 it must have been impossible to get one of these car. The GDR was still behind the iron curtain.
Reason #2: Some small details seem to be wrong. Most prominently the filler neck is missing which should be on the right hand side behind the passengers's door.

The image's commpression it too high to give a correct classification. Does anyone have an uncompressed image?

Junkman UK

2006-01-13 00:44

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I agree with you wholeheartedly. But a P3 is what it is supposed to resemble.
In some Details they look like sachsenringed Landrover Series 1 to me.

mm CH

2006-01-13 00:58

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It should be a fake - look at the radiator grille and the detail how the bonnet/cowling is formed on real P3s:
http://jans-autoservice.de/p3.htm

Alexander DE

2006-01-13 01:13

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Quote I agree with you wholeheartedly. But a P3 is what it is supposed to resemble.

True, and not too bad, either.
Quote In some Details they look like sachsenringed Landrover Series 1 to me.

Could be. Other possibility is a Munga. What do they sound like in the film? Mungas had two-stroke engines (easily recognisable) and quite a few were converted to Opel Kadett four-stroke engines. Either engine plus the gearbox noise sound quite different to a Land-Rover.

Junkman UK

2006-01-13 10:36

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I doubt that the movie had the original sound of these cars in it. For being based on a Munga, the front overhang seems too short and the cars in the movie weren't trailed by blue smoke, but as you said,
they could have been converted to four stroke, like done often.
More fakes: The sign on the bar reads 'Ausgang', whereas this is an 'Ausfahrt' and the round red rimmed
sign means 'no access for vehicles' in Germany, so it is actually entirely misplaced. Also, an 'Ausfahrt' would never be on the left side of the road in Germany, with the bar mounted on the left :-) The scene was apparently filmed in England, which would make the LR as a base more plausible than a Munga. But we will never find out for sure I'm afraid.

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G-MANN UK

2008-10-10 19:07

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Ingo DE

2008-10-10 21:20

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What do you think about Landrover's as base for that fakes? The wheels are Landrover-wheels (or looking so). Definetely not from or for a DKW Munga. The Munga had much smaller wheels.


To continue, what Junkman has said: the word "Ausgang" on this plate is total idiotical. It has no sense at all...

Gag Halfrunt UK

2008-10-10 21:34

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Another oddity: the soldiers are wearing Soviet uniforms, but the vehicles have (fake, of course) Volksarmee number plates.
http://worldlicenseplates.com/world/EU_D4XX.html

chris40 UK

2008-10-10 21:36

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Not only Land-Rover wheels, Ingo: look at the front spring shackles. Land-Rover Series II or III, in fancy dress.

Ingo DE

2008-10-10 22:45

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So better cancel the "IFA" and list it as "made-for-movie"-Landrover?

chris40 UK

2008-10-11 09:22

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Something on the lines of 'Land-Rover unknown as IFA P3', perhaps?

Ingo DE

2008-10-11 14:33

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IFOKALR would be exact (= "IFA fake originally known as Land-Rover" ) :lol:

kooshmeister US

2016-04-28 19:13

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I can see the original Land Rover grill through the mesh fake grill on the lefthand one.

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