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◊ 2006-01-12 22:51 |
EX-GDR People's Army Sachsenring P3, 1961-66 |
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◊ 2006-01-13 00:40 |
I am pretty sure that it is a fake. Reason #1: In 1983 it must have been impossible to get one of these car. The GDR was still behind the iron curtain. Reason #2: Some small details seem to be wrong. Most prominently the filler neck is missing which should be on the right hand side behind the passengers's door. The image's commpression it too high to give a correct classification. Does anyone have an uncompressed image? |
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◊ 2006-01-13 00:44 |
I agree with you wholeheartedly. But a P3 is what it is supposed to resemble. In some Details they look like sachsenringed Landrover Series 1 to me. |
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◊ 2006-01-13 00:58 |
It should be a fake - look at the radiator grille and the detail how the bonnet/cowling is formed on real P3s: http://jans-autoservice.de/p3.htm |
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◊ 2006-01-13 01:13 |
True, and not too bad, either. Could be. Other possibility is a Munga. What do they sound like in the film? Mungas had two-stroke engines (easily recognisable) and quite a few were converted to Opel Kadett four-stroke engines. Either engine plus the gearbox noise sound quite different to a Land-Rover. |
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◊ 2006-01-13 10:36 |
I doubt that the movie had the original sound of these cars in it. For being based on a Munga, the front overhang seems too short and the cars in the movie weren't trailed by blue smoke, but as you said, they could have been converted to four stroke, like done often. More fakes: The sign on the bar reads 'Ausgang', whereas this is an 'Ausfahrt' and the round red rimmed sign means 'no access for vehicles' in Germany, so it is actually entirely misplaced. Also, an 'Ausfahrt' would never be on the left side of the road in Germany, with the bar mounted on the left :-) The scene was apparently filmed in England, which would make the LR as a base more plausible than a Munga. But we will never find out for sure I'm afraid. -- Last edit: 2006-01-13 11:44:39 |
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◊ 2008-10-10 19:07 |
![[Image: octopussyifa2nh5.1674.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0is513/octopussyifa2nh5.1674.jpg) |
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◊ 2008-10-10 21:20 |
What do you think about Landrover's as base for that fakes? The wheels are Landrover-wheels (or looking so). Definetely not from or for a DKW Munga. The Munga had much smaller wheels. To continue, what Junkman has said: the word "Ausgang" on this plate is total idiotical. It has no sense at all... |
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◊ 2008-10-10 21:34 |
Another oddity: the soldiers are wearing Soviet uniforms, but the vehicles have (fake, of course) Volksarmee number plates. http://worldlicenseplates.com/world/EU_D4XX.html |
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◊ 2008-10-10 21:36 |
Not only Land-Rover wheels, Ingo: look at the front spring shackles. Land-Rover Series II or III, in fancy dress. |
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◊ 2008-10-10 22:45 |
So better cancel the "IFA" and list it as "made-for-movie"-Landrover? |
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◊ 2008-10-11 09:22 |
Something on the lines of 'Land-Rover unknown as IFA P3', perhaps? |
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◊ 2008-10-11 14:33 |
IFOKALR would be exact (= "IFA fake originally known as Land-Rover" )  |
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◊ 2016-04-28 19:13 |
I can see the original Land Rover grill through the mesh fake grill on the lefthand one. |
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