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1937 TSM Express H39A7

1937 TSM Express H39A7 in O Dreamland, Documentary, 1953 IMDB

Class: Bus, Single-deck — Model origin: UK

1937 TSM Express H39A7

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sixcyl FR

2008-05-07 19:47

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chris40 UK

2008-05-07 20:43

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Crossley?

johnfromstaffs EN

2008-05-07 21:50

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Looks like a Crossley radiator but this is a 1936 or 37 registration number so it isn't a SD42.

SteveA EN

2008-05-08 00:04

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This one's a TSM HA39A7 with Duple body new circa 1937 and operated by Greys of Peckham - thanks to David Simpson and Neil Fraser for the id; no wonder I had no idea what it was!

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SteveA EN

2008-05-08 15:17

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Not a Crossley - TSM is the make, HA39A7 is the model

chris40 UK

2008-05-08 17:56

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TSM being the successor company to Tilling-Stevens? I wouldn't dream of arguing with your authorities, SteveA, but I can recall (now my memory has been jogged) coaches similar to this being badged as Tilling-Stevens.

johnfromstaffs EN

2008-05-08 18:42

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The vehicle is not a Crossley, although, as I said earlier, the radiator definitely resembles one. Tilling-Stevens is right and the chassis number decodes as follows

H = 1935+ Express; 39 = 69.5 hp petrol engine; A = Passenger vehicle; 7 = 17ft 3in wheelbase. I think the first "A" has crept in by mistake.

So, the correct name for the vehicle is "Tilling-Stevens Express H39A7"

The company went through some re-organisations and ended as part of the Rootes Group, and was where the much respected and very noisy Commer TS3 two stroke engines were built.

Acknowledgement, please, to "Cracking the Chassis Codes" Classic Bus No 34 April/May 1998.



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SteveA EN

2008-05-08 20:22

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No problem with that - I realised it looked like a Tilling-Stevens chassis code, but I had no knowledge of when/how Tilling-Stevens became TSM, or how they were marketed - and we can't see what's written on that radiator!

johnfromstaffs EN

2008-05-09 12:36

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Following a bit more excavation among the hundreds of books in the front bedroom....

Tilling-Stevens split from Thomas Tilling in 1930 and renamed itself T S Motors in 1932. The products were then called TSM so I admit to an inaccuracy there, we should have "TSM Express H39A7" to be 100% accurate. Production ended in 1952 and Rootes, who had bought the Maidstone factory in 1950, produced the TS3 engine in the facility.

Mea culpa, more haste, less speed.

Credit for the information to Classic Bus magazine April/May 2005 "Gone and Almost Forgotten" by Michael Baker.

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