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1951 Kromhout B6VB2 Verheul

1951 Kromhout B6VB2 Verheul in Gueule d'ange, Movie, 1955 IMDB

Class: Bus, Single-deck — Model origin: NL

1951 Kromhout B6VB2 Verheul

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sixcyl FR

2007-05-28 14:36

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seems not to be french bodied coach-bus, a dutch one maybe?

DynaMike NL

2007-05-28 23:45

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"Jansen" written on the back, quite dutch name indeed... License plate seems to be NB-xx-xx: 1951/1952.

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DynaMike NL

2007-05-29 19:59

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I found a front view of a similar bus from the NACO-company (public thansport in the region north of Amsterdam): Link to "images.google.nl" and Link to "images.google.nl"

DynaMike NL

2007-05-29 20:29

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These buses were also used by Maarse & Kroon (region Amsterdam / Haarlem / Leiden), Citosa (region The Hague / Leiden / Utrecht / Rotterdam) and BBA (region of Breda). 90% sure it's a Crossley with coachwork by Verheul.

sixcyl FR

2007-05-29 20:42

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Interesting site, but I didn't found a bus matching exactly with it... Sorry but where is this Crossley Verheul you've mentionned?

DynaMike NL

2007-05-29 20:56

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I'll never understand these machines :/ I thought there would be a direct link to the pictures. Well, you scroll down und click on "KLIK HIER voor de NACO foto's". Then have a look at the first picture and at the penultimate one. You'll recognize a similar bus as the "Jansen"-bus ahown here in Paris. The problem is that there is no info about the make of the bus.
But I found this info in my book about Dutch public transport "De Nederlandse Streekvervoerbedrijven" from 1956, though it's not stated very clearly, I'm pretty sure it is 45 passenger Crossley travelcoach with body by Verheul. Maybe someone else is better in finding exact info in the internet?

sixcyl FR

2007-05-29 21:14

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Thank's DMike, crazy machines indeed! ... the link "KLIK HIER voor de NACO's foto" didn't worked last time I tried, and now it does !

I found the picture and I can tell you that I agree entirely with you , it's the same than the Janssen's!
Si, en recoupant avec tes autre sources documentaires tu trouve un Crossley Verheul, alors c'est parfait... reste peut-être à préciser le type de l'engin? ....

Link to "images.google.nl"


Merci DM ;)

sixcyl FR

2007-05-29 21:26

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Il y a pleins de sites intéressants sur Verheul, mais pour l'instant je n'ai trouvé que ceci:

http://www.openbaarvervoerinboskoop.nl/busgeschiedenis/diversen/argentinie/ sur AEC/Verheul Argentina... je suis frappé par la ressemblance entre les 2 poupes...
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ça ne remet pas en cause la probabilité Crossley, mais ça prouve juste que l'hypothèse VERHEUL est confirmée :)

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garco NL

2007-05-29 21:43

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JohnVeerkamp wrote
Nou, Jansen had verchillende Verheuls rond die tijd, maar de bus op de foto is een voor die tijd vrij moderne en moet dus begin vijftiger jaren gebouwd zijn. Bovendien mag je aannemen dat men niet met een oude bus naar Parijs ging. Het is tevens een vrij grote bus. En dan heb ik twee kandidaten:

Jansen, Maastricht 9, NB-03-68, Kormhout B6VB2 -Verheul, 45 zitplaatsen, van mei 1951;
Jansen, Maastricht 15, NB-23-68, Kormhout B6VB2 -Verheul, 50 zitplaatsen, van juni 1952;

Het kenteken lijkt NB-03-68 te zijn, maar dat kan vertekening zijn.


Translation:
Jansen had various Verheuls around that time, but the bus on the picture is quite modern (early fifties). I pressume they didn't take an old bus to Paris. Two choices:

Jansen, Maastricht 9, NB-03-68, Kormhout B6VB2 -Verheul, 45 seats, van may 1951;
Jansen, Maastricht 15, NB-23-68, Kormhout B6VB2 -Verheul, 50 seats, van june 1952;

License seems to be NB-03-68...


-- Last edit: 2007-05-29 21:45:49

DynaMike NL

2007-05-29 22:16

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Nothing better than first hand information! Great, Cargo, that you've found someone who could help us. And I'm glad that I was at least partially right :) Btw, this would be the first Kromhout on this site! (Kromhouts were built in Amsterdam, they made buses and trucks, and famous diesel ship engines.

sixcyl FR

2007-05-30 00:04

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Chapeau ! :)

garco NL

2007-05-30 21:02

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Kromhout is also a truck company from Holland.
Around 1965 it was taken over by AEC.
In 1961 they 'go together' (Dutch: fuseren) with Verheul.

garco NL

2007-06-04 21:47

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John Veerkamp wrote
A little further investigation shows the bus is the ex Jansen, Maastricht 9, NB-03-68, Kromhout B6VB2 -Verheul of 1951. This bus had de "sky windows", the 15 did not.

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