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1937 Vauxhall Light Six [DY/DX]

1937 Vauxhall Light Six [DY/DX] in Dao shi xia shan, Movie, 2015 IMDB

Class: Cars, Sedan — Model origin: UK

1937 Vauxhall Light Six [DY/DX]

Pos: 00:08:13 [*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene 

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eLMeR MH

2016-05-25 02:54

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(00:08:15 // 00:08:16 // 00:08:17)

nzcarnerd NZ

2016-05-25 03:28

Vauxhall 14/6. Late 1930s I think. DX maybe?

-- Last edit: 2016-05-25 03:29:24

eLMeR MH

2016-05-25 03:35

I suspected a British model, thanks for the confirmation ;)

zodiac SE

2016-05-25 18:44

Possibly a 1938+ Vauxhall H Ten/Four or thereabout http://vauxpedianet.uk2sitebuilder.com/vauxhall-h---ten-four .

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-05-25 20:04

Three sets of side windows indicate that this is a Light Six and not a Ten-Four.
The saloon with projecting boot only available on the DX 14hp model and from 1937 on.

Gag Halfrunt UK

2016-05-26 11:53

Could it be the same Light Six as in John Rabe, also filmed in China?
/vehicle_468484-Vauxhall-14-hp-Light-Six-DX-1935.html

zodiac SE

2016-06-01 00:23

After some more investigation, that is having spoken to a big Vauxhall enthusiast here in Sweden, although with more knowledge in later models, his conclusion is that this front existed on three models, namely:
- Ten/Four, also known as the [H].
- Twelve/Four, also known as the [I] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauxhall_12 .
- Fourteen/Six, also known as the [J] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauxhall_14-6 .
All introduced 1938/1939.

Because of that I believe [DY/DX] name is of its predecessor http://vauxpedianet.uk2sitebuilder.com/vauxhall-dy-dx---light-six and thus wrong.

The Ten/Four had, as johnfromstaffs correctly pointed out, only two sets of side windows, while the Twelve/Four and the Fourteen/Six had three sets of windows.
I don't know if the two latter models were called "Light Six" as they had six side windows, if the Twelve/Four was called the "Light Six" because it had the same body as the six cylinder Fourteen/Six, or if Fourteen/Six was considered especially light and hence nicknamed the "Light Six".

-- Last edit: 2016-06-01 00:25:04

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-06-01 09:42

The Light Six (DY/DX) came in two engine sizes, 1530cc/12 RAC hp (Model DY) and 1781cc/14 RAC hp (Model DX), and came in two series, 1935/6, flat front grille, wire wheels, and facelifted 1937/8, curved grille, steel spoked wheels. The cars were otherwise much the same. Both models were called Light Six because they had six cylinder engines which were smaller in capacity than the Big Six which was a much bigger 2.3 or 3.2 litre car, nothing to do with windows. My identification was based on the thumb showing a boot bustle, which was apparently only fitted on the 14hp DX Touring saloon. All of these variants had a separate chassis and the dreadful Dubonnet independent front suspension system.

The site to which Zodiac refers does not show the Light Six models for 1937/8, one of which is what I believe this car to be, where there were changes, including the curved grille and the replacement of the wire wheels with steel spoke type, the site shows a 1937 Foursome cabriolet with steel wheels and a curved grille incorrectly as a 1935, but later shows an advertisement for the coachbuilders which is correctly dated as a 1936 with the flat grille and wire wheels.


The facelifted cars came in 1937/8 between the flat fronted 1935/6 DY/DX models and the 1938/9 H, I and J.


The Twelve Four had a four cylinder engine of 1442cc, which went on postwar to be used in L and early E series Wyverns, and may have had a spare wheel mounted on the boot lid, not a bustle. Its body was a stretched version of the Ten Four Model H, and was semi monocoque in design. The J Fourteen Six followed this later build method. The Dubonnet suspension was replaced by torsion bars on H, I and J cars.


I, therefore, continue in my view that this is a Light Six and not a 12/4 Model I or a 14/6 Model J.

Link to "www.classicandsportscar.ltd.uk"

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Vauxhall_14_1937.JPG

/vehicle_373993-Vauxhall-14-hp-Light-Six-DX-1937.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauxhall_12

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/detail/motors/classic-cars/vauxhall/14-hp/115883

-- Last edit: 2016-06-01 17:38:08

zodiac SE

2016-06-11 18:23

@johnfromstaffs:

I'm sorry for taking rather long time to answer, but finally I can say I totally agree with what you're writing. This is indeed a Vauxhall Light Six [DY/DX].

My problem was that Vauxhall apparently changed the radiator grille on the frame built Light Six model to ressemble the unitary and more modern looking Ten-Four [H] after it was introduced in October 1937 as (I believe) MY 1938.
The unitary replacement to the Light Six [DY/DX] was then introduced as MY 1939.

There're a few things that differ the models, one being the strip on the side of the bonnet which had (towards?) five strips http://www.cardatabase.net/search/photo_search.php?id=00040492 http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/File:Im20130526Lou-C031.jpg on the 1937/1938 model, but only three http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/File:Im20110522Bv-Vau-c019a.jpg on the 1939+ H, I J models.

About the 1939+ models I think the ´waterfall´ grille was mainly used on the 10/4 [H] and the 12/4 [I], while the 12/6 [J] had http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/File:Im20110522Bv-Vau-c019.jpg a slightly different one which after the war was used on the [I] and [J] as well.

Vauxhall is rather difficult in my opinion.

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-06-17 14:42

Thank you. It's not so bad once you get the grilles and wheels, if you really like puzzles try 30s Wolseleys!

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