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antp ◊ 2005-12-28 19:53	Stolen car, in which they find drugs. So they burn it. Another one hits the Mustang and generate a non-planned accident: -- Last edit: 2014-04-02 17:46:57 (karoomay)
zorglub ◊ 2007-02-05 17:58	Sorry, but it's a '72. The texture of the front grille is different with 71's; the 72's has rubber strips on the side of the front bumper, it was not the case for '71s; the 72's have a Eldorado script at the front of the front fender above the side marker, 71's have an Eldorado block letter attached at the bottom of the front fender molding.
stpaulcarguy ◊ 2007-04-14 05:01	A shame they burned it up that was a nice car.
Cycolac Fan ◊ 2008-12-14 23:55	It would probably have been a theft recovery or a car that couldn't be sold on for some reason, for instance in the show Moonlighting they wrecked a very expensive BMW because it had been stolen and recovered with a long dead corpse in the trunk and the smell couldn't be gotten rid of, perhaps it was a similar thing for this Caddy
MaindrianPace ◊ 2009-01-05 19:44	A drug dealers car filled with 100% pure cocaine, which is beautiful Diamond Pearl Porcelain White is actually a 1971 Cadillac Fleetwood Eldorado, and which makes the car three years old at the time, then ends up getting burned by H.B. Halicki's character Maindrian "Vicinski" Pace.
stratfordbaby ◊ 2009-06-15 17:19	I concur with Zorglub, definitely a '72 Fleetwood Eldorado based upon the "Eldorado" script on the boot lid as well as above the front side fender marker (turn signal). On the '71, the "Eldorado" is written in individual capitalized letters on the boot lid and the "Eldorado" badge is also written in block letters but this time attached to the front side fender chrome instead of near the side marker.
MaindrianPace ◊ 2010-03-04 21:01	A 1972 Cadillac Fleetwood Eldorado because of the grill and the script.
MrTaft ◊ 2010-07-21 12:16	The white Eldorado that gets burnt is actually just a shell. They mention it in the DVD commentary. Also, found out an interesting bit of trivia today - the blue Eldorado that gets hit on the freeway was repaired by Halicki and given to Phil Kachaturian, the guy who did the original music, after filming as a "thank you". He then sold it on to buy equipment for his recording studio.
antp ◊ 2011-04-13 17:28	Another one is seen in the warehouse (or is it a 1971?)
maxman ◊ 2011-07-14 21:19	Cycolac Fan wrote It would probably have been a theft recovery or a car that couldn't be sold on for some reason, for instance in the show Moonlighting they wrecked a very expensive BMW because it had been stolen and recovered with a long dead corpse in the trunk and the smell couldn't be gotten rid of, perhaps it was a similar thing for this Caddy No. They were the ones who stole it. It was filled with heroin, so they burnt it so the drug lord owner wouldn't find them. They make a point about it in the movie. -- Last edit: 2011-07-14 21:20:05
Ingo ◊ 2011-07-14 21:23	Cycolac Fan wrote and recovered with a long dead corpse in the trunk and the smell couldn't be gotten rid of Just annother version of a decades-old, well known http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_legend
Cycolac Fan ◊ 2012-01-25 19:02	Quote It would probably have been a theft recovery or a car that couldn't be sold on for some reason, for instance in the show Moonlighting they wrecked a very expensive BMW because it had been stolen and recovered with a long dead corpse in the trunk and the smell couldn't be gotten rid of, perhaps it was a similar thing for this Caddy No. They were the ones who stole it. It was filled with heroin, so they burnt it so the drug lord owner wouldn't find them. They make a point about it in the movie. Yeah I know. I meant in reality, Toby Halicki, who made the film, had a business that included insurance work. He didn't go out and buy brand new cars to destroy, most came via auctions or one f his repair businesses. Quote and recovered with a long dead corpse in the trunk and the smell couldn't be gotten rid of Just annother version of a decades-old, well known http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_legend Not really sure what I'm supposed to be looking at there - unless you're assuming I have no idea what an urban legend is...? Anyway the story about the Moonlighting BMW isn't an urban legend, it was told to me by a guy who worked on the show.
Moester ◊ 2012-08-19 11:24	Another waste of a nice looking car.
Nightrider ◊ 2012-08-19 12:34	^Have you ever triied to read previous comments? "The white Eldorado that gets burnt is actually just a shell. They mention it in the DVD commentary."
Commander 57 ◊ 2012-08-19 13:38	Then, a waste of good body panels that could be used in the repair/restoration of other Cadillacs.
Nightrider ◊ 2012-08-19 14:06	There is no reproduction body parts on market?
3loader ◊ 2012-08-19 14:27	Its not a waste! Its a nice movie, and it worth to destroy few ton's of iron not really rare for that time.
Commander 57 ◊ 2012-08-19 15:47	Repro parts are not the same as originals when you want to do an authentic restoration. -- Last edit: 2012-08-19 15:47:49
Ingo ◊ 2012-08-19 15:58	The make an authentic restoration absolutely impossible.
Commander 57 ◊ 2012-08-19 16:16	3loader: How about "It's not a waste to destroy a few dollars worth of old canvas and frames in an art museum to make a nice movie about a psycotic art vandal". Not the same, you might say? Well it is to those who cherish, collect, restore and preserve antique cars.
3loader ◊ 2012-08-19 16:25	They were not old back then, i mean. If they do same in modern movie with old car like this i would share your sad feelings. I like old cars, but i like movies too.
Commander 57 ◊ 2012-08-19 19:53	OK.
mike962 ◊ 2012-08-19 19:54	Commander 57 wrote OK. have you visited some junkyards recently ? there are many of this old cars which "could" be restored yet they land in the crusher also the famos Demolition derbies which wreck a LOT of this cars compared to this Hollywood has a very very small contribution to the dissaperenace of this oldies -- Last edit: 2012-08-19 19:55:29
Commander 57 ◊ 2012-08-19 19:59	It all adds up until they're all gone.
mike962 ◊ 2012-08-19 20:01	that's the irony , such cars are only worth restoring and preserving once they are rare heck if you know the trends which of such cars cost next to nothing yet could be valuable and rare in the next years you could make some nice money preserving some (if you have a big yard or soemthing) -- Last edit: 2012-08-19 20:02:35
Commander 57 ◊ 2012-08-19 20:08	On the other hand some are plentiful (such as '60's Mustangs) but still sell for a fortune.
Nightrider ◊ 2012-08-19 22:06	Commander 57 wrote Repro parts are not the same as originals when you want to do an authentic restoration. K70ists doesn't have even that!
Neptune ◊ 2012-08-19 22:58	I try to locate New Old Stock (NOS) parts for the restoration of my Rounded-Line. That’s how I got replacement tail lamps for it. The box they came in was all dusty from where it had sat in a warehouse.
somename ◊ 2012-08-19 23:15	Commander 57 wrote Repro parts are not the same as originals when you want to do an authentic restoration. Don't knock repro parts too much. Without them Model As and Ts would disappear and with them the last remaining vestige of an accessible pre WWII collectible car market.
Nightrider ◊ 2012-08-20 07:36	@Neptune http://www.classicindustries.com/truck/catalog.html
antp ◊ 2012-08-20 17:57	Commander 57 wrote Then, a waste of good body panels that could be used in the repair/restoration of other Cadillacs. A waste of parts of a 2-year-old car ?!
Commander 57 ◊ 2012-08-20 18:25	Where are they now when needed for restorations? Why should the parts on any car, old or new, be wasted?
Ingo ◊ 2012-08-20 20:21	Nightrider wrote K70ists doesn't have even that! Indeed. Except cylinderhead gaskets and exhaust pipes there's nothing. Not any body part at all.
Ingo ◊ 2012-08-20 20:30	Commander 57 wrote Why should the parts on any car, old or new, be wasted? 99% of stock parts were wasted and destroyed by the car companies and dealers itself. What do you think, what they make with them, when a model runs out or the time, they had to keep them for the customers? They throw it into the crusher! Storing them is too expensive. Often they destroy and smash them before, that noone can grab them. This is the daily reality at every car company around the world, except a handful of premium brands, which are offering handmade precious cars. 99% of the NOS-parts in my club are original from the very few VW-dealers and importers, which have NOT done that common practice.
Ingo ◊ 2012-08-20 20:51	somename wrote Don't knock repro parts too much. Without them Model As and Ts would disappear and with them the last remaining vestige of an accessible pre WWII collectible car market. Well, the field of repro parts is a very wide one. There are a plenty of classes. The shit-league is plastic or glassfibre made stuff -which doesn't belong to ANY classic car, except the parts were made of this material originally. Or the lowest-quality chrome parts, as the Brazilian or Taiwan made bumpers and hubcaps for Beetles and other aircooled VW's. But also old stuff belongs to that, as the most of aftersales market parts, which were offered at the production time of the car. Mainly cheap parts for a cheap and fast repair. Cobblers with that didn't take care, that one fender is 2cm shorter than that on the other side. A hammer, filler and glassfibre-mats are helping... The higher class are parts, which were remanufactured by special order of classic parts dealers or clubs. Often the material is not identical (asbestos-free cylinderhead gaskets, brake- and clutch-pads for example), but better anyways (our remanufactured exhausts are from thicker and cinced sheet-metal. They live 10 times longer than the original stuff). And the premium class are parts, which are made with authentic material and by the authentic machines. My phone for example: http://pics.imcdb.org/0is508/img0178oj.8003.jpg
Nightrider ◊ 2012-08-20 21:07	ingo wrote Indeed. Except cylinderhead gaskets and exhaust pipes there's nothing. Not any body part at all. Damn. Good reason to like Cadillacs... http://www.opgi.com/restoration-parts-catalog-cadillac.asp Wait,wait, you don't have even engine parts???
Ingo ◊ 2012-08-20 21:38	Nightrider wrote Wait,wait, you don't have even engine parts??? No repro stuff. Only NOS or used parts. Any classic car freak, who hates any problematical parts-supply, who wants to get them immediately after ordering (even if the price is higher) should choose a Porsche, Mercedes Benz or the most popular British or US classics. Or some exots where an alert and active club takes care, Heinkel for example. Better no VW, except Beetle or Karmann Ghia Typ14 (never Typ 34!), BMW maybe, it depends on the model. Absolutely to avoid are German Fords, Opel, Audi, Simca, Fiat except 500 and Topolino, Japanese cars, at least the most bread-and-butter/porridge cars, although they had been million-sellers in their production time. The part-situation for COMECON-cars is indeed often better, cause by the many active freaks, although masses of NOS-parts were thrown away after The Wall felt down. Owners of Trabant, Wartburg, Skoda and Volga can be much relaxter than fans of West German bread-and-butter-cars as Opel Rekord D, Ford P7 or so. Yes, the K 70 has one of the worst availability of spare parts at all. Seriously, without exaggeration. I'm busy with that since 22 years. Otherwise there's an interesting advantage: this fact makes the fan-scene very small. So we know as each other worldwide. So the orange 73`, Antoine has spotted recently ( Link to "forum.imcdb.org" ) still irritates a lot - because we don't know it Where the heck the owner gots his spare parts during the last 20 years Anyways, the delivery or collection of NOS-parts or even cars had granted a large circle of friends all around the world and several nice vacations to me
antp ◊ 2012-08-21 17:13	ingo wrote So the orange 73`, Antoine has spotted recently [...] still irritates a lot I am happy that I could give you such puzzle to solve, to keep you busy this summer -- Last edit: 2012-08-21 17:14:25
Andre Malraux ◊ 2012-08-21 17:32	deleted comment
Ingo ◊ 2012-08-21 17:51	Nono, everything visible is in fine, original condition. Not even cobblework with the most problematic parts (window rubber, bumper rubbers, front hood trim, right mirror). If the interior is "lederbeige", it would be wrong ("leuchtorange" was only available with interior in "schwarz" or "silbergrau"), but even then it would be original interior with the original cloth.
Andre Malraux ◊ 2012-08-21 19:00	deleted comment
Ingo ◊ 2012-08-21 19:18	The mechanical parts have to be original in every case - because only some single bits were identical with those of other cars.
maxman ◊ 2012-09-03 00:10	Nightrider wrote ^Have you ever triied to read previous comments? "The white Eldorado that gets burnt is actually just a shell. They mention it in the DVD commentary." Yet it has a complete interior.
Nightrider ◊ 2012-09-03 01:07	http://pics.imcdb.org/0is197/gi60s004405c48.3724.jpg Do you see complete interior here?
maxman ◊ 2012-09-22 07:39	Yes, and in the shot of the opposite side. You can see the leather seats, head restraints and mirror in that shot, and in the close up of the other side shows the seats and steering wheel. If it were just a shell, I wouldn't feel quite as bad, but since it wasn't, I feel bad it was burned. -- Last edit: 2012-09-22 07:40:45
carfan2 ◊ 2012-10-26 07:46	sure it was a shell but it still had a complete interior
Cycolac Fan ◊ 2012-11-18 00:45	It was a complete car (or very nearly complete) that burned, as I said before it would have been one of Halicki's stolen / theft recoveries from his insurance business. He had many Cadillacs and destroying a new one would have given him something to brag about in film promotion and make people take notice. Kind of like opening the Italian Job with the wrecking of the Lamborghini (although THAT was just a shell.) Would any of you jump up and down in horror if you saw a 2010 Cadillac set fire to in a movie and say how terrible to destroy it?
maxman ◊ 2013-01-23 00:41	carfan2 wrote sure it was a shell but it still had a complete interior If it had a complete interior, then it's not a shell, now is it?
jettalover ◊ 2013-01-23 03:00	Besides the seats and the top of the dashboard which can be seen from a distance, could it be a shell if the rest of the interior is stripped?
maxman ◊ 2013-02-22 00:18	If the seats, dash, wheel and door panels are still there, what do you expect them to strip?
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Skid ◊ 2014-04-10 17:21	On the DVD commentary, they didn't actually say it was a shell, they said the car that burned was a car that had already suffered fire damage. It was prepped to look good from the camera angle, but in reality the thing was somewhat scorched already. The car shown driving was a different, nicer-condition example.
Classics fan ◊ 2016-02-10 00:00
Classics fan ◊ 2016-02-10 20:53	Skid wrote On the DVD commentary, they didn't actually say it was a shell, they said the car that burned was a car that had already suffered fire damage. It was prepped to look good from the camera angle, but in reality the thing was somewhat scorched already. The car shown driving was a different, nicer-condition example. Yes, the plates are different. -- Last edit: 2016-02-10 20:55:20
classiccarlover ◊ 2016-02-14 13:23	Such a shame that they burned this nice, gorgeous car.

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