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1970 Star 28 [A-28] 
Class: Trucks, Simple truck — Model origin: 
![1970 Star 28 [A-28]](i050065.jpg)
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◊ 2006-08-30 09:58 |
The truck. |
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◊ 2006-08-30 11:56 |
It is a Star 28 (1968), produced by FCS (Fabryka Samochodów Ciężarowych). |
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◊ 2006-08-30 12:23 |
Then it should be FSC Star 28? |
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◊ 2006-08-30 12:30 |
To my sources not ... I would have used it otherwise. .gif ";)") But I am not accustomed how the names were used in Poland. The three letter names we have listed for most vehicles (FSO, FSM, WSK, ...) are initialisms for the factories, followed by a (brand/model) name (like Star, Syrena, ...) followed by a model number. Some publications, like period advertisements would certainly help to clear it up. If you look around on the internet the factory names are usually not used ... but that is no proof! |
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◊ 2006-08-30 12:45 |
I'm asking it because there is another FSC in this movie, a Star 27... Maybe you can check that one too... |
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◊ 2006-08-30 13:01 |
Perhaps Michał (Weasel1984) can help, as we have the same naming problem for most vehicles from Poland. /search.php?resultsStyle=asList&origin=PL There is only very little on the Star history I found so far: http://www.man-mn.pl/en/company/MAN-STARTRUCKS/History.jsp Another funny thing is that there are links for 'FSC' and 'FCS'! |
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◊ 2006-08-30 13:20 |
Marketed as "Star" (only), but I've called these trucks "FSC Star" here, because name "Star" is already exists on IMCDb for old british cars. Now you should rename (without FSC) also these two -> /vehicle.php?id=46939 , /vehicles_make-FSC.html - sorry for this problem.  -- Last edit: 2006-08-30 19:26:52 |
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◊ 2006-08-30 20:56 |
Don't worry about that. .gif ":)") We already have a few other 'double makes': - Adams (car, GB) and Adams (construction, USA) - Eagle (bus, USA) and Eagle (car, USA) - Liaz (truck, CZ/CS) and LiAZ (bus, SU/RUS) - Marmon (car, USA) and Marmon (truck, USA) [not sure if they are not connected] - Triumph (car and bike <1936, GB), then two companies car (GB) and bike (GB) plus since early 1900s bike (D) and Star, which already had two makes, and now a third: car, GB; car, USA; truck, Poland Antoine, I think we have to introduce numbers: Star (1) - Star (2) - Star (3) |
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◊ 2006-08-30 21:14 |
Alright, thanks. Edit: Two other Stars 28/29 :![[Image: star1b.6840.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/0is13/star1b.6840.jpg) I've replaced main pic to do not have two identical pics (it was same one like this of Simca 1000). -- Last edit: 2009-04-05 19:13:25 |
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◊ 2006-08-30 22:01 |
That would look really bad  I think that it is better, when possible, to add a part to the name, like FSC in this case... or just keep them listed together? Another solution would be to change the structure of the database to list makes separately from models, and so the "make" would be a reference to an entry in the makes list and not just a free text like currently. It would allow duplicate names, but a second field would be required for adding details (like "cars"/"bus", or "PL"/"GB"/"USA") |
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◊ 2006-08-31 00:45 |
That is more or less the way I would like to have it. I didn't want the numbers to show up, perhaps only in the list of all vehicle makes. Taking the country or the vehicle type will not be sufficient: Triumph is used twice in GB, and used for two bike manufacturers. Something like a number (with an attached explanation) will be needed for the correct classification when the 'make' field is edited. |
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◊ 2006-08-31 10:54 |
By the "or" I was meaning any text displayed when we select the make but not displayed on the vehicle page So we could have in the list: Triumph (<1930) Triumph (bikes) Triumph (bikes, D) Triumph (cars) Star (USA) Star (GB) Star (PL) etc. -- Last edit: 2006-08-31 10:55:50 |
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◊ 2006-08-31 11:03 |
Marrant: ça fait un moment que ça me titille: l'autre jour, je cherchais une moto BMW... au hasard des 30 et quelques pages de BMW à quate roues. Les motos y sont dispersées... Donc, serait-il possible, en recherche, de distinguer les motos des autos, ou PL ou autres, au sein d'une même marque? (si ça a été dit un peu plus haut, c'est que mon anglais est défaillant, ce qui ne m'étonnerait point...) |
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◊ 2006-08-31 14:00 |
Ça c'est un autre problème... pour BMW c'est bien la même marque  À propos des motos dispersées, on a le même problème avec les autos de plein de générations différentes éparpillées aussi. On avait un jour évoqué l'idée de classer les voitures par époque. |
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