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◊ 2011-08-09 22:45 |
A colour with the identical name existed before at Peugeot, in the mid 70ies for the 304. A few paint tins with this tone belonged to the amount of junk and used Citroen GSA-parts, the idiotic previuos tenant of the garage had left-behind, when I rented it in 1995 |
◊ 2011-08-09 22:47 |
107/Aygo/C1 are quite good actually. Above all the engine is very lively, although it has only got 68 HP. -- Last edit: 2011-08-09 22:47:36 |
◊ 2011-08-09 23:15 |
It's a cheap'n'nasty shopping trolley. |
◊ 2011-08-09 23:22 |
I doubt that - where's the trunk for that purpose |
◊ 2011-08-09 23:23 |
http://i.auto-bild.de/ir_img/67139916_9b824808d7.jpg |
◊ 2011-08-09 23:38 |
What an embarassing joke Do you call this gap a trunk? I'm used to have something usable as Link to "www.welt.de" Sorry, but I hadn't made a pic last week, when I've loaded my Vectra Hatchback. Seriously, you can put there six(!) boxes of http://www.wirbringens-versandshop.at/Images/Products/Large/Budweiser-0.5l-Kiste.jpg and Link to "www.lieferservice-getraenkehintz.de" in it - side by side (!!!) without turning down the back seats. And it's possible to put on the beer boxes a second layer without putting out the trunk-cover -- Last edit: 2011-08-09 23:46:17 |
◊ 2011-08-09 23:44 |
My brother-in-law needs a trunk which is a bit bigger than yours ingo, cause he works for a company which sells schnapps, wine, spirits and tobacco. He also uses his car as a family car, cause he has a wife (well my sister ) and 3 children. I´m often in the car with them, too. That´s why he has got a Galaxy: Link to "fotos.autozeitung.de" |
◊ 2011-08-10 01:27 |
Talking of crappy Peugeots, I've just had 2 weeks in a 2-month old 207 rental. Driver's seat already collapsed, super-soft paintwork which is covered in scratches, asthmatic 1.4 engine with no power, and best of all no rear speakers, despite speaker covers in the back doors. 207s used to be reasonably enjoyable driving cars and it still handles well, but now they're cynically specified and poorly-made piles of merde. Had a Kia Venga last month - great cabin but otherwise porridge and I'd never actually want one, but a much better car. |
◊ 2011-08-10 14:15 |
What do you expect as trunk in a car which is less than 3.5m long? What a surprise, more room in bigger cars What's that for a crappy small trunk in your 4.5m K70? (1m longer than the 107!) In my 4m 206SW if I reply the seats I can put much more in the trunk (note that it is the same for the 107 actually: replying the rear seats gives you a little more space than in the K70 ) -- Last edit: 2011-08-10 14:31:30 |
◊ 2011-08-10 14:21 |
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◊ 2011-08-10 14:33 |
It's academic debate. Ingo looks to other cars by comparing with K70's 700-litre "well" trunk. |
◊ 2011-08-10 14:46 |
I look to cars by comparing "how difficult it would be to park with it" If I had a 107 that day, it would have been much easier to park in that space (the K70 won't fit ) -- Last edit: 2011-08-10 14:47:40 |
◊ 2011-08-10 14:49 |
Did you get in there like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cQ4SHqC7yo ? |
◊ 2011-08-10 21:34 |
@antp: it's just a question of experience Although for many people a K 70 is hard to handle, especially the parking (FWD-car with a long wheelbase, not servo-steering), for me it's really the car, which I can handle at best. I got this certainty just a few days ago, when I parked it in the quite narrow parking garage of my fitness-club. I can rank the K 70 better than all the other cars I drove or owned before (o.k., the NSU 1200 was more handy). Though I drove my Omega 211.000 km -with no other car I made more km- a car with servo-steering and ABS, I'm better with the K 70 anyways. But I always avoid to park the K 70 like you have done with your Peugeot, because I'm afraid, the others could damage it, when they are ranking. And for sure I would use it in Belgian towns only with the certainess of a reserved gated parking lot. Or I make it as my uncle do, eho works since 18 years for the EU in Brussels. He never take his car into the town. Even after that many years, he's still mad about the Belgian way of driving and parking |
◊ 2011-08-10 21:40 |
Eeh, your comparison is wrong in the same way: the K 70 is a Sedan and your 206SW an Estate Anyways: the back seat-rest is removable, too and the opening has the same size as the Omega B Sedan. Not bad for a 1960ies construction, or? And does anyone else can present annother Sedan, where you can put in the trunk -without removing the back seat and a closed trunk-lid!- a) 4 K 70-doors or b) the front hood of a VW Type 3 Shortnose |
◊ 2011-08-10 21:45 |
How can you did it?? |
◊ 2011-08-10 21:45 |
Oh no, it's for sure not academic. It's meant absolutely realistic! The usable space of a car is one of the most essential points at all Here we have a car, dsl has apostrophised a "shopping trolley", which you cannot use for thart purpose except removing the back seats. |
◊ 2011-08-10 21:46 |
What? Removing the seats or putting the stuff in? |
◊ 2011-08-10 21:47 |
Putting stuff. Without opening lid. And rmoving seats. |
◊ 2011-08-10 21:51 |
To avoid misunderstandings: surely you have to open the trunklid. But with the stuff in the trunk, I've mentioned, you can close it |
◊ 2011-08-10 21:52 |
I was thinking of shopping as more to do with supermarket bags filled with pots of Marmite or strawberry yoghurts, not body parts from dead VWs .... |
◊ 2011-08-10 22:03 |
@ingo: I think I´ve got a sedan: Ford Mondeo Stufenheck (Sedan, 2007+): Link to "www.autobild.de" Of course with no removed back seats. I know it´s much bigger than a K70. -- Last edit: 2011-08-10 22:05:03 |
◊ 2011-08-10 22:11 |
Mmmhh, not sure about that. All Sedans from the 50ies up to the 70ies have the disadvantage of a high lower edge of the trunk. It came late, in the 80ies, that the edge went down to the bumper - but the modern cars have the disadvantage of less space in the trunk, caused by the insulation, many plastic, which covers electric stuff and so on. In the past you had just naked space as the first Audi for example: http://www.kirk.de/Audi60.html -- Last edit: 2011-08-10 22:15:52 |
◊ 2011-08-10 22:14 |
@dsl: You´re absolutely right, that is the intended purpose of very small cars: Small shopping tours and other small things. My sister has got three children and two of them go to the kindergarten daily. Furthermore she drives to the supermarket which is not far away from their home. And for a few kilometres, her car is absolutely perfect. She has got a 1998 VW Polo, which has also got a very small trunk. |
◊ 2011-08-10 22:49 |
Just to add something to this quite useless discussion: @Ingo: Also the trunk of a Panhard is quite big (500 liters! Late Panhard 17 even had 600 liters because the spare wheel had moved to the front over the engine) and there's no problem in lifting luggage too high, since the boot lid goes all the way down to the (low) bumper... |
◊ 2011-08-10 22:57 |
Is a big boot the new long bonnet? |
Gomselmash11 ◊ 2011-08-11 02:18 |
Ehh Mike, great picture |
◊ 2011-08-11 02:56 |
That's a very confusing question for an Imp fan. Somewhere in the back of this discussion is that one of the factors for the Cortina's success was that it deliberately had a big boot to stick 2 fingers up at BMC with their Minis and 1100s which were technologically on another planet, but too small booted. And so the Cortina invented the reps car, helped by the expansion of the motorway network in the early 60s. There is another Cortina development story that Walter Hayes put a Minx S3 in Ford's design studio and told his team "Design me a better Minx". Despite being set such an impossible task, they did their best .... |
◊ 2011-08-11 14:25 |
It is worse in Paris http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nif2gODVxm8&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9rapXVEhIw&feature=related Of course, I just followed the way you were comparing a supermini 107 to the K70 -- Last edit: 2011-08-11 14:26:12 |
◊ 2011-08-11 21:04 |
The bus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJuGe1PhBLE&feature=related for going to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkPUChtzGcw&feature=relmfu |
◊ 2017-03-20 13:21 |
2008 by plate (B727BA199) |
◊ 2019-07-08 21:25 |
2008 MY 1.0i built December 20, 2007 in 'jaune citrus'. VF3PMCFAC88217604 |