1954 Guy Arab LUF Duple Elizabethan

1954 Guy Arab LUF in Track The Man Down, Movie, 1955 IMDB

Class: Bus, Single-deck — Model origin: UK

1954 Guy Arab LUF Duple Elizabethan

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johnfromstaffs EN

2023-02-02 22:59

Difficult, but maybe Harrington Wayfarer.

johnfromstaffs EN

2023-02-03 18:37

Changed my mind after some study of the pictures.

I think it's a Duple Elizabethan, or Britannia.

Elizabethan (1953–56) on AEC Reliance, Atkinson PL745H, Daimler Freeline, Guy Arab LUF, Leyland Tiger Cub, Seddon Mk.11 and Sentinel SLC/6/30, so where do we go from here?

-- Last edit: 2023-02-03 19:22:36

fred1969 FR

2023-02-03 22:34

I propose Harrigton TKM 328 1955
what the specialist says ? :)

https://www.thcoachwork.co.uk/way2.htm

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johnfromstaffs EN

2023-02-04 12:18

I don't know who you refer to as "the specialist", but it ain't me, by a long way.

If you are prepared to hear from an observer and snapper up of ill considered trifles, a comparison between TKM328 and the subject vehicle follows.

1. The destination blinds above the driver's windscreen are replaced by curved, tinted glass.
2. The continuation of the line made by the bottom of the curved quarter windows does not meet the square windscreens in the same place.
3. Different wheel surrounding motif.
4. Different indicator or sidelights.
5. No foglamp.
6. TKM is an AEC, see the badge below the windscreens, the subject vehicle has a square blob, might be a Leyland badge.

Any help gratefully accepted.

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dsl SX

2023-02-04 13:59

johnfromstaffs wrote I don't know who you refer to as "the specialist", but it ain't me, by a long way.

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king .....

Or if you prefer, the definition of an expert: Someone who knows slightly more than anyone else in the room.

johnfromstaffs EN

2023-02-04 14:54

With the accent upon the word “slightly” if at all!

Expert - Ex = has been. Spurt = drip under pressure.
Old, but apposite.

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Lowlander SX

2023-02-04 20:54

Definitely a Duple Elizabethan body.

These bodies were not all that common (couple of hundred maybe) and the layout of the chrome trim varied a lot depending on the customer's preference - this style of teardrop/egg shapes around the wheels was going out of vogue in the early 'fifties and these egg-shaped ones are one of the less common variations. The twin destination displays below the windscreen were also uncommon. It is in a bus station so probably on an express service, and the large crest on the passenger doors is right for the major express operator Black and White Motorways. All of these things point to it being one of the NDG160-NDG175 batch:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/cheltonian1966/6930424502/

1954 Guy Arab LUF / Duple Elizabethan

johnfromstaffs EN

2023-02-04 22:13

^^ Thanks for this, the Black and White fleet is not really one of my major interests, and the information is most welcome.

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