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◊ 2021-07-15 02:26 |
Locally produced Fiat 124 |
◊ 2021-07-15 03:02 |
From wiki "The Fiat 124 was also produced under the name Fiat-KIA 124 by Asia Motors in South Korea between 1970 and 1975. In total 6775 units were assembled." Unusual big side indicators, and front indicators in new inwards position. I don't think we have another example which matches these details. |
◊ 2021-07-15 03:54 |
I wouldn't be surprised if it's the exact same car from some rental movie prop fleet, that appeared in these other two movies, since they have the same details you mentioned.... big side indicator and/or front indicators located more inwards.... /vehicle_144611-Fiat-Kia-124-124A-1970.html /vehicle_964796-Fiat-Kia-124-124A-1970.html ... and this music video lol (time set to start at right moment). https://youtu.be/wX-e5rvmtas?t=37 -- Last edit: 2021-07-15 03:55:56 |
◊ 2021-07-15 11:04 |
Yes, it's this one from Kumho Classic Car: Link to "www.kumhoclassiccar.com" |
◊ 2021-07-15 11:16 |
I don't want to change a system which seems to work well with everyone happy and knowing where these 124s are listed, but is it correct to call these Kias?? Wiki's Asia Motors page says "Asia Motor Industries initially manufactured military vehicles, trucks and buses but soon it began negotiations with Fiat and in 1970 it started to assemble Fiat 124 models. It diversified into the SUV and heavy vehicles market, including large and medium duty trucks, special military vehicles, lightweight cars, civilian jeeps (a small jeep look-alike called the Rocsta and later the Retona), motor vehicle components, to include engines, and buses and mini-buses. In 1969, Asia Motors was acquired by Dongkuk Steel. In 1973, the South Korean government launched a plan to promote the production of low-cost cars for export. Asia Motors was unable to satisfy the plan's conditions, losing its car assembly permits, and was purchased by Kia in 1976 ... " which suggests the Kia link came the year after 124 production ended. |
◊ 2021-07-15 11:45 |
Well spotted. The Kumho Classic Car site (translated by Google) gives "Asia Auto" for the manufacturer and says that their car was made in 1972. -- Last edit: 2021-07-15 11:47:03 |
◊ 2021-07-15 12:06 |
I guess Fiat-Kia is fine for the 132 assembly (which we've marked as 77+ on our examples) and it seems a shame to split the 124s into a new make by themselves (with the danger of them becoming lost because no-one remembers where to find them). So what do people want to do - keep the current system, or agree a new way of listing these 124s? |
◊ 2021-07-15 12:22 |
Very interesting question I notice also that car seems to have only Fiat branding/badges..anyway I am not sure why Wikipedia calls these Fiat-Kia if they precede the acquisition of Asia by Kia? Maybe a sort of convention? Anyway, probably I'd leave these this way for same reasons explained by dsl, but I am open to other suggestions.. So, should these green examples be changed to 1972? Edit: indeed Asia is mentioned as licensee in this list of Fiat foreign builds taken from 1973 ACI world catalogue: -- Last edit: 2021-07-15 12:25:00 |
◊ 2021-07-15 14:26 |
The car owned by Kumho Classic Car was made in 1972 so yes to change the green ones. They say that the model was made from 1970 to 1973 in South Korea. -- Last edit: 2021-07-15 14:28:27 |