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1962 Vanden Plas Princess 4-Litre Limousine 
Class: Cars, Limousine — Model origin: 
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◊ 2020-02-19 18:53 |
Austin A135. |
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◊ 2020-02-19 18:57 |
MKI, MKII, MKIII, MkIV ? |
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◊ 2020-02-19 19:08 |
There was only the lwb limousine in this shape, but that is only from its windows. |
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◊ 2020-02-19 19:09 |
No, I missed the P on the bootlid. Start again. |
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◊ 2020-02-19 20:19 |
I think that it’s this again. /vehicle_1353839-Princess-4-Litre-Limousine-DM4-1958.html |
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◊ 2020-02-20 12:48 |
It seems that it's got a different plate, I think it reads "979 B..", also there seems to be some sort of small chrome piece on the rear fenders (or is that a reflection)?![[Image: austinprincessi1.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/26849/austinprincessi1.jpg) |
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◊ 2020-02-20 12:50 |
Fenders? |
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◊ 2020-02-20 12:54 |
I meant this part:![[Image: austinprincessi1.1.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/26849/austinprincessi1.1.jpg) |
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◊ 2020-02-20 12:59 |
Apparently a Vanden Plas Princess Touring Limousine on the long wheelbase chassis. Became the Princess in 1958, they must have moved the fuel fillers elsewhere. BYN reversed is London CC commenced April 1961 to July 1963. The Vanden Plas name was introduced in 1960. -- Last edit: 2020-02-20 13:13:31 |
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◊ 2020-02-20 13:10 |
Certainly not a Mk4. |
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◊ 2020-02-27 21:40 |
I think all VdPs had wheel trim rings. Some of our plain Princesses don't. So voting plain Princess. |
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◊ 2020-02-27 22:00 |
By date, it’s VdP. |
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◊ 2020-02-27 22:14 |
Fair enough - changing. But while agreeing , the film release date was Feb 63, so likely filmed in 62 for sunshine and foliage. As xxx BYN was an "allocated in blocks" series, maybe the rate of release was very sporadic and the last few stragglers took a long time to be squeezed out. |
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◊ 2020-02-27 22:36 |
But...... On t’other hand, and continuing in the open and honest manner which I have tried to maintain having learned it when I was in the arms trade, put on your best spectacles, screw up your eyes, and stare very hard at the boot lid. Is that a “P” lurking in the cellulose? Does it indicate anything interesting? |
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◊ 2020-02-27 23:38 |
The P only means it's not the first Austin-badged version, doesn't enable splitting of Princess or VdP. See for instance this Austin without P - which incidentally has the chrome thingie on the rear wing. These limos have lots of quirks where early/late differences can be spotted - eg white/orange front indicators, absence/presence of wheel trim rings, rear light formats, full/part spats - but without clean breaks into the three names. The body colour painted C-pillars and body painted grille surround seem reliable for Austin, with Princess and VdP having shiny trim pillars and chrome grille surround; there may also be a trick with the grille badges and flying A mascot, but uncertain if intermediate plain Princess followed the Austin or VdP formats. I tried to pin all these down a couple of years ago for a model cars article, using books, online photos, our collection and whatever else I could get my hands on, and started drowning. Oxford Diecast did an excellent range of these in 1:43 split into what they called early, mid and late versions (so starting with Austin and through to late VdP), with a painstakingly detailed chart of what they identified as the differences. But while it clued me up on some things which were new to me (rear lights, very very early Austin grilles were different), not all their analysis actually worked either. So still some finger crossing needed. Not sure how legible this will be ![[Image: oxfordglobe126june2010p5chartbigger.jpg]](http://pics.imcdb.org/10314/oxfordglobe126june2010p5chartbigger.jpg) |
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