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1945 Atkinson M1266 12-Ton British Road Services
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXPlate confirmed as BRS 147 = Aberdeen 1945, as seen here - reused footage extract but has some extra sequences added. 2017-12-20 00:48
1950 Albion Chieftain British Road Services [FT37]
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXBriefly reused here 2017-12-20 00:40
1947 Maudslay Mustang British Road Services
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SX
Sunbar wrote So the Mustang did exist as a model name about 1939.

Strongly suggested from my picture books, but not totally confirmed. The solid statement is that a family of M(somethings) was planned for a late 1939 grand unveiling but mothballed until after WW2, although as you say it seems some Moguls as the bread-and-margarine variant were made during WW2.
2017-12-08 20:17
1947 Maudslay Mustang British Road Services
Work in Progress (1951)
Sunbar UKAll good information dsl. So the Mustang did exist as a model name about 1939.

dsl wrote Some picture-book info, but not much solid. Seems Mustang was part of a new range of M-whatever named models to be launched at the 1939 Commercial Motor Show but held back from production until WW2 over.....


Probably the 'planned launch' by Maudslay as neither the Motor Exhibition in October nor the Commercial Motor Show in November was held as they were cancelled by the SMMT in early September 'in view of the state of war'.

Some wartime production did occur as the Maudslay Mogul was manufactured 'in wartime form' before 1944 but like other manufacturers it was probably very limited in scope. The Mikado and Maharajah were still being developed and planned in various forms and wheelbases during October 1940 with production 'at a later date'.

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2017-12-08 17:47
1947 Maudslay Mustang British Road Services
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXSome picture-book info, but not much solid. Seems Mustang was part of a new ranhe of M-whatever named models to be launched at the 1939 Commercial Motor Show but held back from production until WW2 over. One undated book photo shows black-painted early grille on a Mustang and similar on a 1946 Mogul, as if this was an immediate post-war treatment before it became shiny again. AEC takeover was 1948 with "AEC grille" following very quickly that year.

Also a comment here
johnfromStaffs wrote Probably ... 1946, as wartime spec black radiator grille and small headlamps.

This one has bigger headlights. So 1947 seems close enough for rock'n'roll.
2017-12-08 13:59
1947 Maudslay Mustang British Road Services
Work in Progress (1951)
Sunbar UKAgreed its after 1944 or 1945, the radiator is as used by the 1944 Mogul Mk.II but certainly after 1942 style of grille casting. The 'AEC grille' introduction does look to be during 1948.

I cannot find when Maudsley first introduced a twin-steer six but its likely to be no earlier than 1938 or 1939 by which time other manufacturers, Leyland, Dennis, Foden, ERF and Albion were introducing them. Again, its probably after 1945.

Also cannot determine if the Mustang name was used before the end of 1948 with use the export-only model. There was a UK home-market model by 1947, as mentioned in the CM article, but without a name referenced, it was either purely a 10-ton twin steer or did carry the Mustang badge. If it had used a different name i feel sure CM would have mentioned it.

So '1947-1949 Maudslay Mustang' looks good for me.
2017-12-08 12:18
1947 Maudslay Mustang British Road Services
Work in Progress (1951)
JCB UKA Mustang without doubt then probably early post war, I wonder if the later fancier grilles came in with the AEC takeover in 1948 as they are somewhat similar to AEC grilles. 2017-12-08 08:05
1947 Maudslay Mustang British Road Services
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXBRS Maudsley "Chinese Six" (but no model name given) with grille match - Link to "public.fotki.com" (the GVP 951 plate gives mid-1947). But if it's a Mustang, the model year will be something totally irrelevant anyway ..... :whistle: 2017-12-07 16:14
1935 Morris-Commercial 10-12 cwt Van [L2]
Work in Progress (1951)
Gamer DEWOA! That seems like a rare thing! :) 2017-12-07 16:00
1935 Morris-Commercial 10-12 cwt Van [L2]
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXWill take the van as you've suggested. The car seems to be our first Ford WOA1. 2017-12-07 15:59
1950 Albion Chieftain British Road Services [FT37]
Work in Progress (1951)
Sunbar UKYes, 1948-1951 Chieftain FT37 looks likely to me.

Link to "www.trucksplanet.com"

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2017-12-07 15:04
1935 Morris-Commercial 10-12 cwt Van [L2]
Work in Progress (1951)
Sunbar UKPossibly a 1935 Morris-Commercial 10-12 cwt Van [L2] but too small for any real detail I think.

Also looks like the rear of an ex-Army Humber Snipe Staff Car with the increased ground clearance and raised bumper?

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2017-12-07 14:57
1941 Ford WOA1 Staff car [62]
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXGood spot. The boot is very Ford-ish (like a chopped post-war Anglia??)

" .... The WOA1 ... should actually be called a staff car and not utility car; the utility was the WOA2. ... we can say 1,623 WOA1 and WOA1A (6.50-16 instead of 9.00-13 tyres) were built from 1941 to 1944." - http://hmvf.co.uk/topic/22802-ford-woa1-staff-car/
2017-12-07 13:15
unknown
Work in Progress (1951)
3asv6 HKLondon Transport RT (AEC Regent Three) or RTL (Leyland PD) class.... 2017-12-07 11:19
1941 Ford WOA1 Staff car [62]
Work in Progress (1951)
JCB UKYes quite sure its a Ford W0A1, quite funky !
Getting a rear view on net not easy but Matador Models have one-
http://www.matadormodels.co.uk/mat_pics/76B38%20WOA1%20red.jpg

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2017-12-07 07:59
1950 Albion Chieftain British Road Services [FT37]
Work in Progress (1951)
JCB UKChieftain ? 2017-12-07 07:44
unknown
Work in Progress (1951)
JCB UKJeez the worlds biggest bus shelter ! 2017-12-07 07:43
1947 Maudslay Mustang British Road Services
Work in Progress (1951)
JCB UKLeft is a rare 'Chinese Six' lorry ie 2 axles on front 1 on back.
Maybe a Maudslay Mustang.
Link to "public.fotki.com"

Right is a fairly common Leyland Comet.

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2017-12-07 07:42
1941 Ford WOA1 Staff car [62]
Work in Progress (1951)
JCB UKWonder if it's a ex WW2 Ford WOA1 V8 staff car ?

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2017-12-07 07:33
1939 AEC Monarch British Road Services
Work in Progress (1951)
JCB UKLooks like a lighter 4 wheel model so a Monarch maybe. 2017-12-07 07:31
Bedford QL
Work in Progress (1951)
JCB UKBedford QL 2017-12-07 07:27
1950 Commer QX British Road Services MkI
Work in Progress (1951)
JCB UKCommer QX , MK1 2017-12-07 07:26
1947 Bedford O-Type OLB
Work in Progress (1951)
JCB UKO-Type an OLB

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2017-12-07 07:02
1950 Thames ET6 British Road Services
Work in Progress (1951)
JCB UKYes Thames ET6 .

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2017-12-07 06:21
1945 Bristol K Duple
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SX[Image: 16-40bus.jpg] [Image: 16-40busc.jpg]

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JAE 253 = Bristol, 1945. Not much info around, only Bristol K Duple H30/26R, Bristol Omnibus - http://bristol-re.co.uk/relhlv.asp?t=K-DU .

Solves one unknown on Buses on Screen page - location is not directly identified but is a factory bus park in Bristol and might be Patchway, close to Filton Aerodrome where Rolls-Royce and BAC had factories
2017-12-07 05:10
1943 Bedford OWB Single Deck Utility Bus for Bristol Tramways
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SX[Image: 16-59a7.jpg]

Plate is xxx 764, with probably some combination of H/M/N/W for the 3 letters. Buses On Screen says Bedford OWB.

Found this reference "...the splendid footage in the British Transport Film Collection - Reshaping BR - Work in Progress-Bristol - which has some wonderful minutes of arrivals and departures at Patchway Bus Park and Filton Church in 1949/50, including a brief glimpse of OWB HHW 764 (258), I think, apparently departing for Henleaze Lake on a workers' special."

There's also the Oxford Die-cast 1:76 model 76OWB010 of a Bedford OWB Single Deck Utility Bus HHW 21 for Bristol Tramways.

HHW series was Bristol, Oct 1942 to May 1943 with the first 1943 plate being HHW 359. So the Oxford model was 1942, ours 1943.
2017-12-07 05:03
Work in Progress (1951) dsl SX[Image: title.443.jpg] [Image: titleb.63.jpg]

Work in Progress is no longer a work in progress.

Excellent 25 minute ramble round Britain for various bits of interesting transport stuff, and good fun to work with because of excellent quality footage. Taken from
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British Transport Films Volume Four: Reshaping British Railways 2-DVD set. Can be seen at the start of this centipede or this one.

Bits

- British Rail 18000 prototype mainline gas turbine-electric locomotive built for British Railways in 1949 by Brown, Boveri & Cie
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- a big petrol-powered spanner for tightening railway bolts
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- Garelochhead ship breakers
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... started on disused WW2 navy base, closed in the 1980s and absorbed into Faslane nuclear submarine base. I think the boat is RMS Aquitania built for Cunard in 1913 and at 36 years had the longest service career of any 20th-century express liner until 2004 when Queen Elizabeth 2 became the longest serving Cunard vessel. I bet they needed a couple of 5-jib cranes to dismantle those 4 funnels :whistle:.

- Granny's Tomato Soup in Argyll depot
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2017-12-07 01:40
unknown
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXAbsolutely no clue from film where/what this is - pops up on its own with no context or other view a few minutes after all the other buses - but looks single deck and unusual wheel cover. 2017-12-07 01:16
1938 Bristol K ECW
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXFHT 242 = Bristol K ECW H30/26R Bristol Omnibus according to the only hit I could find. Plate issued July-Oct 1938.

Solves another unknown on Buses on Screen page.
2017-12-07 01:12
1948 Bristol K5G ECW
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXLAE 702 = Bristol K5G 66.105 ECW 1872 H30/26R, 6/1948 Bristol Tramways #3740 according to BLotW. 2017-12-07 01:05
1939 Bristol K5G ECW Highbridge body
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXMay also be this shot which follows immediately afterwards
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GAE 502 was 1939 Bristol issue, but this page says new in 1941 Bristol K5G ECW Highbridge body for Bristol Tramways C3304, with an excellent 1957 picture of its second life as a circus showman's mobile home. Apart from the huge COPYRIGHT logos all over the picture.
2017-12-07 00:57
1934 Austin Seven LWB Steel Saloon [RP]
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXLooks like LWB Steel Saloon without rear body seam, so 1934 [RP] should be correct. 2017-12-07 00:42
1946 Bristol K6A
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXJHT20 = Bristol K6A W3.027 Stn H30/26R, 8/1946 Bristol Tramways according to BLotW. What does Stn mean?? 2017-12-07 00:12
1935 Morris-Commercial 10-12 cwt Van [L2]
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXGets a page because it's so sharp and on first view I thought it might reappear later as this one passing the bus garage
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.... but they're not the same.
2017-12-06 23:49
1941 Ford WOA1 Staff car [62]
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SX[Image: 15-47carb.jpg]

Low sporty thing, but high ground clearance. Genuine sports coupe or cheap fibreglass conversion for small Ford/Austin etc??
2017-12-06 23:44
1950 Bristol K6B ECW
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SX2 sequences:

- early
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- a bit later: main and
[Image: 14-52bristol3776f.jpg] [Image: 14-52bristol3776g.jpg]

LHY 939 = Bristol Tramways #3776, Bristol K6B ECW H31/28R, 4/1950 - Link to "www.buslistsontheweb.co.uk" , Link to "busesonscreen.net"

My last thumb solves an unknown on BLotW page.
2017-12-06 23:38
1947 Bedford O-Type OLB
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SX[Image: 10-13bedfordb.jpg]

Looks like SB 70xx = Argyll, 1947.
2017-12-06 22:54
1947 ERF unknown British Road Services
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXReflection in main is only view of front. A nice clue in 1st thumb gives the link to the remainder of this ERF 4-wheeler.
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SB 7038 = Argyll, 1947.
2017-12-06 21:59
Bedford QL
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXCampbeltown. For the one on right - the left is HGB 644 again. 2017-12-06 21:34
1939 AEC Monarch British Road Services
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXSB 6220 = late 1939, Argyll. AEC?? 2017-12-06 21:23
1945 Atkinson M1266 12-Ton British Road Services
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXFor the 6-wheeler which follows HGB 644 from Glasgow to Kintyre. No decent view of the front or the plate.

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ERF?? Atkinson??
2017-12-06 21:19
1947 Maudslay Mustang British Road Services
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXWhichever. 2017-12-06 21:02
1950 Albion Chieftain British Road Services [FT37]
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXLong sequence from Glasgow down to Campbeltown and the bottom of Kintyre.

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HGB 644 = Glasgow, Nov 49 to Jan 50.
2017-12-06 20:57
Ruston-Bucyrus 32B
Work in Progress (1951)
mike962 DEsmells very strongly Rusoitn Bucyrus 32 RB

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2017-12-06 20:54
Ruston-Bucyrus 32B
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SX[Image: 02-52diggera.jpg] [Image: 02-52diggerb.jpg] 2017-12-06 20:42
unknown
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SX[Image: 01-30busa.jpg] [Image: 01-30bus.jpg]

Not sure where this is, but it's a new structure.
2017-12-06 20:32
1949 Vauxhall Velox [LIP]
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SXCream wheel paint = Velox, Wyvern was body colour. MBH 728 = Buckinghamshire Feb to June 1949. 2017-12-06 20:26
1950 Bristol L6B ECW B35R
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SX[Image: 00-54fmo11b.jpg] [Image: 00-54fmo11c.jpg]

FMO 11 = Thames Valley Traction 536 (FMO11), a 1950 Bristol L6B c/n 73093, built 1949. ECW B35R body. Sold to United Welsh as No.536 in 1960. Link to "busesonscreen.net", http://www.classicbuses.co.uk/thames.html
2017-12-06 20:14
1950 Thames ET6 British Road Services
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SX[Image: 00-47thames.jpg] [Image: 00-47thamesc.jpg]

KYF = London Jan 50 to Dec 51 "allocated in blocks". Thames ET6??
2017-12-06 20:05
1950 Commer QX British Road Services MkI
Work in Progress (1951)
dsl SX[Image: 00-46commerb.jpg]

LLH(?) 5(?)44 = London July 50 to Jan 51. Most LLx series were London mid-50 into 51.
2017-12-06 20:01

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