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1968 Volkswagen Delivery Van [Typ 2 / T2]

1968 Volkswagen Delivery Van [Typ 2 / T2] in Division 4, TV Series, 1969-1975 IMDB Ep. 30

Class: Cars, Van / MPV — Model origin: DE — Built in: AU

1968 Volkswagen Delivery Van [Typ 2 / T2]

[*][*] Minor action vehicle or used in only a short scene

Comments about this vehicle

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eLMer MH

2016-11-06 08:26

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1968+ Delivery van with the 1968-70 rounded hubcaps.

tore-40 NO

2016-11-06 09:17

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1968-69 Mirror, white arm so rather 1969

But: German made CKD, with about 60% local parts (only the very first 1968 were fully imported) so there may have been small oddities

Keats AU

2016-11-06 09:58

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Vehicle registration number is from early 1969.

eLMer MH

2016-11-08 07:25

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@ tore-40:
Is it a white arm or a chromed one? I'm not sure it's possible to distinguish between the two of them in a black and white picture...

@ Keats:
Do you really manage to read the plate number in this picture?

Keats AU

2016-11-08 09:33

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@ eLMer - no, not in this picture; the vehicle's in motion, so it's impossible to get a clean shot. But, watching the sequence, the plate can be read OK.

tore-40 NO

2016-11-08 17:17

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@eLMer: Looking again it's too blurry to be sure. Could you at least agree 1968(stainless steel, btw, not chrome, they mostly appear to be black when viewed from outside) and 1969 are different?

Edit: Btw, possible CKD with locally made details, so rather hard to tell anyway

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Keats AU

2016-11-10 07:45

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Here y'go:

[Image: 30-kombi.jpg]

tore-40 NO

2016-11-10 19:50

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Thanks, but that is not the mirror in question, instead the inside rear view mirror changed for the first few years

eLMer MH

2016-11-11 06:37

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tore-40 wrote [...] Could you at least agree 1968(stainless steel, btw, not chrome, they mostly appear to be black when viewed from outside) and 1969 are different? [...]

My reference book (fr) gives indeed October 1968 as date of change, i.e for the 1969 model year. But it also indicates chrome for the 1968 model (confirmed here) and white vinyl cover for the 1969+ version.
Apparently all 1969 brochures on samba.org show vans with the chrome model, but it sounds logical as the change took place 2 months after the MY change. VW wouldn't have modify its literature for such a tiny modification :)

So, knowing now that the white stem mirrors are thicker than the chrome models (see a 1968 front face versus a 1970 one), I'd say that the one of the main picture is a 1968 only version. But as already said, I think that the low picture quality of the picture doesn't allow us to be totally sure about details more or less visible in it...
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And I was able to check it directly yesterday evening on the T2s present at the "air-cooled meeting" that takes place monthly in my town. First of all, with the 1970 model that brought me to the meeting: obviously a white stem model (and maybe one of the few genuine parts remaining on the van of my friend :) ). Secondly, with a 1968 Combi luckily present this time: luckily because the owner doesn't come every month to the meeting and it's the only 1968 MY model I saw for now in the surrounding area.

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tore-40 NO

2016-11-11 12:50

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As you have more info, I'm sure you'll find a change in August 1969. The 1970+ mirrors are mounted on shorter arms, with sun visors closer. And as a piece of advice, the VW brochures are never accurate. Stock photos are often reused. Their manuals are often better as reference, if your book should be inadequate.

ingo DE

2016-11-11 15:49

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tore-40 wrote ... And as a piece of advice, the VW brochures are never accurate. Stock photos are often reused. Their manuals are often better as reference, if your book should be inadequate.


No, not really. The sales brochures are terrible, but the manuals are not much better. About specific technical informations yes, but the pictures definetely not (for example all K 70-manuals included NSU-prototype-photos until the end).
Sometimes, at significant technical changes during the production year, VW had put inlay-sheets into the manuals.

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tore-40 NO

2016-11-12 10:49

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'Often better' didn't imply flawlessness :/

But you did indeed emphasize my point.

eLMer MH

2016-11-13 13:40

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tore-40 wrote As you have more info, I'm sure you'll find a change in August 1969. The 1970+ mirrors are mounted on shorter arms, with sun visors closer. [...]

The book cited above shows indeed its limits in this affair: it says August 1969 for a sun visor change but don't mention any new mirror arm, just having the -optional- anti dazzle model as general illustration without specific model year. So the manuals are indeed useful to see that:
1968 vans have a long chrome mirror stem and small sun visors;
1969 models have:
  ∗ larger sun visors ending near the mirror stem;
  ∗ a mirror with the same stem length but squarish and coated with white vinyl.
1970+ models have:
  ∗ sun visors of the same length as 1969 models but with a different cut;
  ∗ a thicker and smaller mirror stem, still with white vinyl plus with a day/night system.
   This latter system is optional in some countries (France: comme équipement suppémentaire; Netherlands: als meeruitvoering; others?), at least until 1971 or 1972 when the day/night system becomes standard and the previously standard mirror becomes optional. So we may certainly assume that the 1970-71/72 standard version looks like the other, minus the small black lever.

tore-40 wrote [...] And as a piece of advice, the VW brochures are never accurate. [...]

I wouldn't say it that way. But that the editors always manage it in the simplest and most profitable form. Like for these 1971 brochures, where the UK version display an inverted picture to make it look like "as if" :D
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Off topic, but for reference:
About some vans seen from time to time that always puzzle everyone (or maybe just me, in fact? :D ), this site says:

Quote A few of the late ‘72 vehicles have high front indicators and ‘73 on front panels but still have the wrap around style front and rear bumpers.

Keats AU

2016-11-27 06:20

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Episode 137:
[Image: 137troubles-kombia.jpg] [Image: 137troubles-kombib.jpg]

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Keats AU

2016-12-03 04:39

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Episode 162:
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Keats AU

2016-12-17 05:26

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Episode 245:
[Image: 245wevemadeitwererich-kombi.jpg]

tore-40 NO

2016-12-17 15:56

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Keats wrote Episode 245:

1971

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