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1960 ERF KV 46TSRA 'Chinese Six'

1960 ERF KV in John Turner M.P., Short Movie, 1962 IMDB

Class: Trucks, Simple truck — Model origin: UK

1960 ERF KV 46TSRA 'Chinese Six'

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dsl SX

2016-09-21 14:29

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[Image: 15-07erfb.jpg] [Image: 15-07erfc.jpg]

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-09-21 14:41

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Which of the ERFs do you want?

dsl SX

2016-09-21 14:46

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How many are there?? The pale eight wheeler is the same example in all 3 pictures.

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-09-21 15:33

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The eight wheeler is a KV, behind it are two cars, and then an earlier ERF, dark in colour, cab type V.

Link to "www.fotolibra.com"

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dsl SX

2016-09-21 15:39

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Not arguing against KV - lots of Corgi models for instance - but surprised it seems to be our first. Any alternative names??

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-09-21 15:42

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http://www.truck-photos.net/picture/number3566.asp

johnfromStaffs EN

2016-09-21 16:14

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There are only 91 ERFs on the whole database, so I looked through the pictures, and this is the first KV cab indeed.
The full identification of an ERF includes, inter alia, the number of axles and the engine supplier and number of cylinders, so accurate nomenclature seems impossible unless the actual truck is known.

Is the subject vehicle an eight wheeler or a Chinese Six?

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dsl SX

2016-09-21 18:54

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2 front axles, single double-wheeled axle at rear.

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-09-21 23:11

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Chinese Six, then.

ingo DE

2016-09-21 23:19

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johnfromstaffs wrote Which of the ERFs do you want?

dsl wrote How many are there?? The pale eight wheeler is the same example in all 3 pictures.


More ERFs than I've spotted during three weeks in Scotland last year.

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-09-22 09:14

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Hardly a surprise, this film is 54 years old, and the factory closed in 2002, with the marque being discontinued in 2007.

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johnfromstaffs EN

2016-09-22 09:42

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Keep your eyes open for the stunning ERF Sabrina!

http://www.trucknetuk.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=95154

Sunbar UK

2016-09-22 13:06

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johnfromstaffs wrote Chinese Six, then.


Two twin-steer, six-wheeler ERF chassis were available initially...

1952 - ERF 14-15 ton gvw 66TSGE, Gardner 6LW engine, export model only.

1956 - ERF 17-ton gvw 46TSRA, Rolls-Royce C4.NFL engine, UK and export markets.

Although others may have been available later, its possible this is a 46TSRA here.

dsl SX

2016-09-22 13:19

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When did KV get 4 headlights? Glass's gives a slight reference to increased radiator size on 64G in Nov 57, but nothing else even vaguely helpful.

Sunbar UK

2016-09-22 14:27

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Paired headlamps are standard. - September 1961 CM archive.

This is somewhat supported by the preserved examples on http://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/ with one exception in 1956 therefore optional headlights previously or later modification?

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-09-22 14:28

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As far as I can see, about the beginning of 1958, but there are variations within this design like two different sizes, additional bright work, flared wheelarches, heaters. These are almost hand built vehicles, there will likely be overlaps and changes in accordance with customer's requirements.

http://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p548596651/h23fe8c69#h6aae1c57

But this is a 1954 example, http://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p548596651/h23fe8c69#h587f998e Twin headlights.
And this is a 1958 http://ccmv.aecsouthall.co.uk/p548596651/h23fe8c69#hd401210 Single headlights.

The variation of cabs used by ERF is quite large, cabs came from Jennings, Willenhall and in house, and were far from standard.

A lot of these images are of restored vehicles, which could have been subject to modification.

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dsl SX

2016-10-03 18:10

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Book reference (caption, page 90) that twin headlights started in 1960.

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