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1917 USA Liberty US Mail

1917 USA Liberty in James May's Cars of the People, Non-fiction TV, 2014-2016 IMDB Ep. 2.02

Class: Trucks, Simple truck — Model origin: US

1917 USA Liberty US Mail

Position 00:30:27 [*] Background vehicle

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dsl SX

2016-02-15 03:26

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James is talking about Ford trucks at this point, but these snippets of archive film may be more random than suggested.

nzcarnerd NZ

2016-02-15 08:06

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Hard to tell what this is but I see it has electric lights. It could be one of the thousands of WW1 military trucks that were reconditioned and resold after the war, a move which severely affected the British truck industry.

dsl SX

2016-02-15 15:27

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[Image: jamesmayep2230-27truckb.jpg]
My hunch is that this is US footage, despite apparently driving on left. It is immediately followed by this brief sequence, but fairly sure it's a different truck and situation
[Image: jamesmayep2230-27c.jpg] [Image: jamesmayep2230-27truckc.jpg]

[Image: jamesmayep2230-27truckd.jpg]

Skywatcher68 US

2016-02-16 16:13

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dsl wrote [Image: jamesmayep2230-27c.jpg] [Image: jamesmayep2230-27truckc.jpg]

[Image: jamesmayep2230-27truckd.jpg]


These are a US Mail truck, I'm guessing a Ford.

http://earlyamericanautomobiles.com/images/autos1577.jpg

-- Last edit: 2016-02-16 16:14:02

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-02-16 16:16

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A Ford with longitudinal front springs?

Skywatcher68 US

2016-02-16 16:33

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Link to "www.conceptcarz.com"

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-02-16 19:05

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That is a transverse spring.

-- Last edit: 2016-02-16 19:06:21

Skywatcher68 US

2016-02-16 21:38

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I'm going on the assumption that there are two different trucks on this page. If the main pic is also a mail truck, it might be from whatever made this. Maybe an Autocar.

-- Last edit: 2016-02-16 21:50:30

dsl SX

2016-02-16 22:52

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I think they are 2 different trucks - main looks like smaller wheels with solid tyres/rims, and seems to have bonnet ahead of cab not a flat front - if so side edges would probably be right-angle corners to match radiator profile. Difficult to tell, but it seems to be coming to a stop alongside platform which might have a small buffer extending outwards.

Second truck is also coming to a stop, but it's not the same place. Also I think it has air-filled rubber tyres on bigger wheels and the bonnet is too rounded to match the radiator in main. Something like the Link to "www.conceptcarz.com" link looked pretty good to me until jfs pointed out the suspension, but the overall shape looks comparable. However main is more ramshackle - possibly less integrated or more awkward body style - and may be older??

But these are all impressions in a very quick bit of footage, not solid fact.

Skywatcher68 US

2016-02-17 18:16

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I don't really see any suspension in those three images, just the axle. The US Mail did have a strong association with both Ford and Autocar way back when.

If the footage dates from the early Twenties, these could be just about anything. From the US Postal Museum:
Quote In 1920 the Secretary of War turned 5,000 motor trucks and 1,000 motorcycles over to the Post Office Department. The vehicles, used during World War I, were a mix of makes and models. Many were too big or too beaten up for mail service. In the end, only 1,444 of the trucks and 701 of the motorcycles received from the military were used to carry the mail.

Skywatcher68 US

2016-02-17 21:09

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Could the main pic be a Liberty truck?

Link to "placespages.blogspot.com"

-- Last edit: 2016-02-18 01:58:16 (dsl)

dsl SX

2016-02-17 22:32

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I'd take it as a Liberty - seems to match what I think I can see. Anyone else??

Which probably means spinning truck 2 off onto its own page - can we get agreement for an ID?? Ford?? Or??

johnfromstaffs EN

2016-02-17 23:32

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Liberty is as good a guess as any other.

The second image does not look like a Ford, there is no sign of axle location rods or of the Ford transmission, which protrudes below the chassis, and it looks too big. It also has semi elliptic rear suspension with a longitudinal spring on either side of the axle, which isn't the standard for a T or TT. The engine cover seems to have an ogee shape reminiscent of a Packard from the teens of the 20th century.

-- Last edit: 2016-02-17 23:36:45

Skywatcher68 US

2016-02-18 23:51

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The Army did use Packard trucks in WWI.

dsl SX

2016-02-19 22:09

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Have entered main as Liberty. Truck 2 now has own page, currently entered as Packard - /vehicle_889083-Packard.html

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