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2005 Opel Zafira [B]

2005 Opel Zafira [B] in Lösegeld, Movie made for TV, 2012 IMDB

Class: Cars, Van / MPV — Model origin: DE

2005 Opel Zafira [B]

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Ingo DE

2016-02-02 11:41

@rjluna2: the legendary Belgian motorway-illumination, visible even from the space :D

Can be the E34 (A21 in B) nearby Tournhout, as back in 2012 there were still these lanterns. About now I'm not sure, as IIRC this motorway was completely renovated recently. In that case the lanterns were dismantled without substitution.

rjluna2 US

2016-02-02 14:04

ingo wrote @rjluna2: the legendary Belgian motorway-illumination, visible even from the space :D

Was it illuminating golden orange or bright yellow?

Ingo DE

2016-02-02 19:52

:think: both I think. @antp, @chicomarx, Exiv96 :hello:

rjluna2 US

2016-02-02 20:48

ingo wrote :think: both I think. @antp, @chicomarx, Exiv96 :hello:

That could indicates Sodium vapor bulbs.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natriumdampflampe

chicomarx BE

2016-02-02 22:15

Yes, both. The old are usually orange and the newer whiter.
It's also a more complex situation than anywhere which is the reason it has to be illuminated.

chicomarx BE

2016-02-02 22:20

Complex meaning dangerous.

Ingo DE

2016-02-02 22:43

chicomarx wrote Yes, both. The old are usually orange and the newer whiter.
It's also a more complex situation than anywhere which is the reason it has to be illuminated.

chicomarx wrote Complex meaning dangerous.

:think: Sorry, I didn't get really your point. Is it an allousion about the typical Belgian way of driving, and/or the fact, that in B the drivers licence was introduced quite late (wasn't it in 1968)?

rjluna2 US

2016-02-02 22:43

chicomarx wrote Yes, both. The old are usually orange and the newer whiter.
It's also a more complex situation than anywhere which is the reason it has to be illuminated.

Indeed, there are more than different type of Sodium-vapor bulb: Low Pressure (SOX), High Pressure (SON) and whiter High Pressure bulb (White SON). Some of them have it replaced with Metal Halide bulbs to work with existing SON ballast.

See also: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halogen-Metalldampflampe

chicomarx BE

2016-02-03 00:01

@ingo No, it's the infrastructure. Local traffic mixes with highways. Too many exits. Too many signs. Bicycle lanes on busy roads, etc. And the car park keeps growing.

chicomarx BE

2016-02-03 00:06

@rjluna2 All traffic lights in Belgium are getting LED lights. Video:
Link to "deredactie.be"

Sacrilege?

-- Last edit: 2016-02-03 01:25:46

Ingo DE

2016-02-03 00:13

chicomarx wrote @ingo No, it's the infrastructure. Local traffic mixes with highways. Too many exits. Too many signs. Bicycle lanes on busy roads, etc. And the car park keeps growing.

But all these topics don't concern the Autobahnen/motorways :??: And the situation is the same in any other European country, too - but only in Belgium the motorways are illuminated, even on straight stretches.

rjluna2 US

2016-02-03 02:21

chicomarx wrote @rjluna2 All traffic lights in Belgium are getting LED lights. Video:
Link to "deredactie.be"

Sacrilege?

In the Lighting Gallery web site, some of the members called them LEDisease and they are already spreading :whistle:

antp BE

2016-02-03 19:10

ingo wrote
But all these topics don't concern the Autobahnen/motorways :??: And the situation is the same in any other European country, too - but only in Belgium the motorways are illuminated, even on straight stretches.

There are way more entries/exits on our highways. Not in the middle of nowhere, but you're less often in the middle of nowhere in Belgium than in bigger countries :D
Also, the lights allow to spot more easily the numerous potholes in the roads.
On newer roads (or when they re-make roads) they tend to not put as many lights as before. Some highways now have lights only around entries/exits and interchanges. On other roads, they do not replace defect lights, as the remaining ones are still quite enough.

-- Last edit: 2016-02-03 19:11:30

Ingo DE

2016-02-04 17:54

antp wrote There are way more entries/exits on our highways. Not in the middle of nowhere, but you're less often in the middle of nowhere in Belgium than in bigger countries :D
Also, the lights allow to spot more easily the numerous potholes in the roads.
...

:??: But wouldn't it be cheaper to repair the potholes than placing lanterns there? I think, you are ironic.

Btw.: there are sometimes exits or other road-parts, which shall not be too popular. We have such nearby our village and we use it daily:

Link to "www.dorstenerzeitung.de"

A hidden Autobahn-exit on a rest area (and a slip-road-track in the other direction), not signposted on the Autobahn, nor on the streets around, nor on official maps. The Navi-systems know it, but otherwise only the local people.
It's a relict of corruption, as a State Secretary at Helmut Kohl-government-times let built that for her personal convenience. Of course this fact was and still is impugned, but that's a lie. noone around here believe that.

antp BE

2016-02-04 19:20

Lights were already there :p (from the time they started using nuclear energy, as back then they had too much production in the night)

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